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Unread 10-24-2011, 07:39 AM   #46
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Can I assume that, along with bagging and tagging, you guys are also taking pictures of everything before disassembly? I'm going to be tearing mine down, soon, and my biggest fear is forgetting how, or in what order, it all came apart.

Glenn, I hope your new steering box and carb install go smoothly. Which carb did you settle on?

FYI, my driveshaft angles were fine, and I did not have to modify my sway bar links at all, when I installed my 2.5" OME lift.

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I took 128 photos in the disassembly. Your biggest asset will be the Jeep Service Manual, you should get one, it will come to be your best tool.

This online one should help out though
A-General
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FSM/A-General.pdf
3,356KB file

Ba Engines General
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FS...es_General.pdf
7,087KB file

Bb 150 CID 4 Cylinder Engine
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FS...4_Cylinder.pdf
10,328KB file

Bc 258 CID I-6 Cylinder Engine
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FS...6_Cylinder.pdf
10,530KB file

Bd Cooling & Fuel Systems
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FS...el_Systems.pdf
13,924KB file

BE EGR, PVC & TAC Systems.
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FS...AC_Systems.pdf
2,515KB file

Bf Fuel, Feedback & Exhaust Systems
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FS...st_Systems.pdf
12.7KB file

Ca Electrical Systems
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FS...al_Systems.pdf
16,159KB file

Cb Electrical Schematics
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FS...Schematics.pdf
12,270KB file

D Clutch
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FSM/D-Clutch.pdf
5,144KB file

E Gearboxes & Transfer Cases
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FS...nsfer_Case.pdf
8,670KB file

F Automatic Transmissions
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FS...ansmission.pdf
7,742KB file

Ga Steering
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FSM/Ga-Steering.pdf
13,174KB file

Gb Steering, Front Axle
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FS...Front_Axle.pdf
15,315KB file

H Rear Axle
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FSM/H-Rear_Axle.pdf
9,086KB file

J Suspension
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FSM/J-Suspension.pdf
4,763KB file

K Brake System
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FS...ake_System.pdf
7,655KB file

L Heating/Air Conditioning
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FS...onditoning.pdf
8,060KB file

M Accessories
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FSM/M-Accessories.pdf
3,350KB file

N I.S. Notes
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FSM/N-I.S._Notes.pdf
4,369KB file

O Auto Transmission Overhaul
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FS...nsmissions.pdf
14,491KB file

P T-4 & T-5 Transmission Overhaul
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FS...nsmissions.pdf
9,372Kb / 9.15MB file

Q 4.0L & 4.2L(258 CID) Engine Overhaul
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FS...4.2_Engine.pdf
10,201KB file

R '81 to '86 Jeep Parts Manual
http://www.civilianjeep.info/84-86FS...nual_81-86.pdf
37,223KB file

I am currently looking for a factory assembly manual

I have ordered the Webber K551-S (32-36-DGES-electric-choke) through Carbs Unlimited.

See this link on the discussion on which carb to order.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/be...olley-1278181/


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Unread 10-24-2011, 08:04 AM   #47
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Great set of links, Glenn. Thanks!!

So, I'm assuming your computer has been "Nuttered"? If so, I urge you to try manifold vacuum to your distributer when you hook up your carb. Many of us believe this is the preferable setup.

I have a good vacuum layout that I can post when you get to that point.

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Unread 10-24-2011, 08:18 AM   #48
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Great set links, Glenn. Thanks!!

So, I'm assuming your computer has been "Nuttered"? If so, I urge you try manifold vacuum to your distributer when you hook up your carb. Many of us believe this is the preferable setup.

I have a good vacuum layout that I can post when you get to that point.

Matt

I not sure, it has an MSD box so I believe it has been.

Part of this unbuild will be to remove the AMC ignition box, and the computer, all of that wiring. I plan on leaving the egr and catalytic converter

I would like your vacuum layout.

I have the one below from keith460

Running full vacuum from the manifold is like running full advance all the time. That is what I do in the dragster, infact I locked the distrubuter down.

The only side effect from that is sometime you might have cold weather hard starts.
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Unread 10-24-2011, 08:29 AM   #49
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Running full vacuum from the manifold is like running full advance all the time. That is what I do in the dragster, infact I locked the distrubuter down.
Not exactly. At idle, and under no load, you will have full vacuum advance. This helps with cold starting and low-end performance. Under load, manifold pressure decreases, which will back advance out.

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Unread 10-24-2011, 08:34 AM   #50
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Not exactly. At idle, and under no load, you will have full vacuum advance. This helps with cold starting and low-end performance. Under load, manifold pressure decreases, which will back advance out.

Matt

Yes, you are correct.
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Genn,

Here is the vacuum layout I use with my 32/36 and factory air cleaner.

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Unread 10-24-2011, 02:09 PM   #52
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Genn,

Here is the vacuum layout I use with my 32/36 and factory air cleaner.

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Thanks, I will keep it for reference when I start to put things back together
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Unread 10-24-2011, 06:53 PM   #53
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Yes sir!
Good luck nice method to tracking all those parts.
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Unread 10-24-2011, 08:46 PM   #54
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Very Nice "7" !!! I'm looking for a 7 or aWrangler to build right now. I sold my 81 CJ-5. (I'm 6'3" and the 5 had gotten too small for me as I age.)
I had my best luck with parts ordering through www.4wdhardware.com and through www.Quadratec.com while I was building my CJ-5.
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Unread 10-24-2011, 09:35 PM   #55
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Very Nice "7" !!! I'm looking for a 7 or aWrangler to build right now. I sold my 81 CJ-5. (I'm 6'3" and the 5 had gotten too small for me as I age.)
I had my best luck with parts ordering through www.4wdhardware.com and through www.Quadratec.com while I was building my CJ-5.
I'm not a small guy myself, this is me walking into the garage.

I'm looking for the little chrome strip that runs along the top of the door panel. I'll try 4wdhardware, thanks
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Great job so far! That CJ is in fantastic shape for being up in the northeast! Looking foward to seeing your ongoing progress, Glenn!
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Unread 10-25-2011, 09:49 AM   #57
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Dropped the two doors, the front grill, and the windshield off at paint jail today. I'm going to get the rust fixed. The doors painted the same color as the Jeep.

Iím heading out on a trip to Florida so I will be away the later part of this week, so not much will get done. I also have to make progress on the kitchen remodel. Got to keep the better half happy!

Next week I would like to start on the heater upgrade. The new carb should also arrive.

I've seen people imbed photos in their threads. Can someone tell me exatly how to do that?
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When I had my 1946 CJ-2A,(no factory Heater), I had an after-market heater mounted on the floor in the rear area. It ran off the coolant system so it wasn't a big drag on the electrical system,(just the blower motor). If you need more heat, they still selll those nifty little heaters. Just check around. I think Q-tec and 4WD Hardware may even sell them also.
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When I had my 1946 CJ-2A,(no factory Heater), I had an after-market heater mounted on the floor in the rear area. It ran off the coolant system so it wasn't a big drag on the electrical system,(just the blower motor). If you need more heat, they still selll those nifty little heaters. Just check around. I think Q-tec and 4WD Hardware may even sell them also.
I believe the ones they sell are electric. I have seen the little ones that toyota had and those ran off the engine coolant and are flat enough to mount under the rear seat. The feeling I have gotten is the heater upgrade described here really makes a difference
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Ok, thanks to the help provide here. I have taken a Jeep that originially came with a soft top with no door restraints.



with parts provided by members.



Sand blasted them.



Powder coated them.



The powder was not the correct color, I ordered it from a color sample on the computer. I have had them send me samples an this one looks pretty close. I will order a pound of that and see what it looks like.



Painted the bolts that hold the pins in place. (Hint a good way to paint bolts is take a scrape piece of plywood. Drill a bunch of holes the right size for different bolts, stick the bolts in the holes and paint the heads. Keeps your hand and threads clean of paint).



And bolted them in. When the doors come back from paint jail (two weeks now) they will no longer hit the mirrors (if I ever order the straps)



THANKS
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