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Unread 01-31-2013, 11:21 AM   #16
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Can you please tell me what type of camera or setting you used to take those pictures. They are great.

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Unread 01-31-2013, 12:22 PM   #17
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A friend of mine took those pictures and im not sure on his seetings
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Unread 01-31-2013, 08:00 PM   #18
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The Wells is just a brand name for the HEI module.

It replaces the DuraSparc ICM

Some of the advantages are, no current flowing when engine is stopped, means you are not burning up the coil or ICM when you have the ignition on listening to the radio

It handles more current, SO you can go to a better ignition coil and no voltage dropping ballast resistor.


Disadvantage, no retarding the timing whe cranking.
So if the timing doesnt retard how hard will it be to start??
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Unread 02-01-2013, 04:44 AM   #19
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Frankly, I've never noticed any problem starting without the retarded timing.
Maybe when the battery gets week and the carbon buildup is bad i will see some then.
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Unread 02-01-2013, 03:48 PM   #20
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Yea i think it will be fine, any pointers in doing it?
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Unread 02-01-2013, 05:00 PM   #21
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John, I've heard both ways, and never any clarity.... If you have the GM HEI and a Ford TFI coil, no ballast is needed?
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Unread 02-01-2013, 08:17 PM   #22
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John, I've heard both ways, and never any clarity.... If you have the GM HEI and a Ford TFI coil, no ballast is needed?
That's correct. The HEI module was designed to have full voltage at the coil.

Some here ran into problems with their stealth HEI set ups when they were using the Original resistor wire to feed their E-core coil. Putting full voltage to the coil plus terminal fixed their problems.
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Unread 02-01-2013, 08:54 PM   #23
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That's correct. The HEI module was designed to have full voltage at the coil.

Some here ran into problems with their stealth HEI set ups when they were using the Original resistor wire to feed their E-core coil. Putting full voltage to the coil plus terminal fixed their problems.
Could you explain this a little deeper? I know roughly what an e-core coil is, mine has a stock for one. ide like to upgrade to the e-core coil.
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Unread 02-01-2013, 09:13 PM   #24
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The e-core coils look like a transformer. They require less energy to charge up to reach their full spark potential because they have less iron in them to resist the magnetism build up required to provide the spark when the ground is removed from the coil. (if I can say it like that) but usually run lower resistances then a can type coil. Which means it will work your ICM harder.

People have run the e-core coil on a OEM duraspark ICM with no problems using the resistor feed. I personally think if going to that type of coil go the extra mile and take full advantage of it by making a stealth HEI.

Or just stay with the can coil and wait until your duraspark module burns up then e-core it (using full battery voltage) and gut the dead module and put the HEI inside it.

Just remember depending on what year you have, you will have to have the nutter bypass preformed to get both the orange and purple wires over to the stealth HEI.

Then consider the team rush upgrade with the bigger cap and rotor and ignition wires off a 4.0l jeep of any year. (Or 5.0l ford I6).

Edit I just realized yours is a V8. Don't worry about the nutter bypass comment.
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Unread 02-01-2013, 09:22 PM   #25
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The e-core coils look like a transformer. They require less energy to charge up to reach their full spark potential because they have less iron in them to resist the magnetism build up required to provide the spark when the ground is removed from the coil. (if I can say it like that) but usually run lower resistances then a can type coil. Which means it will work your ICM harder.

People have run the e-core coil on a OEM duraspark ICM with no problems using the resistor feed. I personally think if going to that type of coil go the extra mile and take full advantage of it by making a stealth HEI.

Or just stay with the can coil and wait until your duraspark module burns up then e-core it (using full battery voltage) and gut the dead module and put the HEI inside it.

Just remember depending on what year you have, you will have to have the nutter bypass preformed to get both the orange and purple wires over to the stealth HEI.

Then consider the team rush upgrade with the bigger cap and rotor and ignition wires off a 4.0l jeep of any year. (Or 5.0l ford I6).

Edit I just realized yours is a V8. Don't worry about the nutter bypass comment.
What years of vehicles have the e-core coil?? my can coil has a green wire on one side and red on the other, will an ecore work the same way? what is resister feed? I am new to this engine
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Unread 02-01-2013, 10:25 PM   #26
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The Ford vehicles with the TFI system (EEC-IV) from the 80's have the e-coil, same as some GM vehicles of the same area.

Random Google search found me this - funny it is even posted on a Jeep site!

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Unread 02-01-2013, 10:46 PM   #27
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Ahh ok that makes sense to me! where would i hook the green and red wires to??
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Unread 02-01-2013, 11:09 PM   #28
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surprised no one has commented on the sweet valve covers yet.
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Unread 02-01-2013, 11:29 PM   #29
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I got mine off a escort. Take the mounting bracket and at least 6 inches of the wire harness with the plug.
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Unread 02-02-2013, 01:39 AM   #30
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surprised no one has commented on the sweet valve covers yet.
Haha yea i refere this engine as the jewel. I honestly couldnt figure out why it has two different valve covers. I know it is a edlebrock cover and has a holley carb.
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