[CSP]

Originally Posted by Agent454

I got a question for you. Emissions regulations? When you do a swap like this where do you get the info for the emissions.

Contact your state. I would bet with 99% confidence that there's a state website with the info you need or at least contact phone numbers for the emissions people.

I can't tell from your post if you're wanting to swap your 304 for another AMC engine or for the 350 you have already.

If it's the 350 the junkyards are full of them. Look for air tube manifolds there.

[Big_Pete1999]

just a quick question, because I'm currently smack dab in the middle of a 350 swap. (money really isn't a factor for me though)
IF your jeep didn't have an AMC 304 in it to begin with, won't you pretty much need exactly the same amount of stuff that you would with doing the 350 swap? I mean, you might get away with transmission matchups if you found a 304 jeep tranny, but even so, you'd still need all the fabrication to make a 360 work as you would a 350. You'll need different mounts, flywheel, clutch, linkage, tranny, adapters, transfer case adapter (probably), driveshafts, hoses, elecrical, etc.. etc... The only real difference is that you are keeping the Jeep AMC instead of chevy. At least with chevy, things tend to be cheaper if something breaks, and even some of the adapters to make it work are cheaper.
I think it's a very common misconception that just because the jeep is an AMC, that any AMC will swap right in. It'll be just as painful and taxing as a sbc swap.
Ok, back to mocking up my motor mounts. I got a welder coming over in a few hours. (novak adapter motor mounts and other adapters)

[Big_Pete1999]

Originally Posted by turnabout

Glad to hear you want to go with the 360 - It sounds like it will be cheaper with minimal mods and you can keep things "in the family." Use the T15/DS20 combo and you can't go wrong strengthwise. You may want a Terra Low set-up later down the road if you do serious rock crawling.
You have a Jeep, not a Blazer, so good choice to drop the SBC and auto.............. (No offense to the SBC/auto guys, I'm an early AMC guy at heart......)

I'm an early AMC guy at hear too. My dad had 2 red/white/blue Rebel Machines, but he needed to sell them to pay taxes a few years before I was old enough to work and buy one from him That is still my favorite car on the planet (had the 401 with dog leg heads, dual quads, some crazy cam, he use to race it in california at the drag strips). he also had one of the green '69 AMXs with the "go package". that thing was awesome too.
But seeing his jeep had the 6 cyl in it (like mine did), he'll still need to do everything the same to do a v8 swap, just with less parts availability, and usually more expensive parts when you find them.

[243]

If money was not an issue, I would have continued with the TBI 350.

There is an advantage of using a 360 when the 304 was stock in a CJ-5, all the parts are off the shelf and since the block dimensions are identical, no fabrication. If you have a 304 the 360 is a complete bolt-in. That is the fastest, easiest V8 swap in a CJ with only a few minor drawbacks.

[Big_Pete1999]

Originally Posted by 243

If money was not an issue, I would have continued with the TBI 350.

There is an advantage of using a 360 when the 304 was stock in a CJ-5, all the parts are off the shelf and since the block dimensions are identical, no fabrication. If you have a 304 the 360 is a complete bolt-in. That is the fastest, easiest V8 swap in a CJ with only a few minor drawbacks.

Problem is that he doesn't have a 304, he has a 258 I-6 in it. So it'll be just as difficult to put a v8 in there with a 360 as a 350

And I'm going EFI over TBI. Just want direct injection. I have a holly 4bbl on my 350 at the moment. I'm gonna fire it up and drive it a few hundred miles with the 4bbl on it, that way if anything goes wrong with fuel or leaks or anything, then it just hurts the carb. After that, it's EFI with megasquirt as my stand alone computer

[kw89425]

Originally Posted by Big_Pete1999

Problem is that he doesn't have a 304, he has a 258 I-6 in it. So it'll be just as difficult to put a v8 in there with a 360 as a 350

And I'm going EFI over TBI. Just want direct injection. I have a holly 4bbl on my 350 at the moment. I'm gonna fire it up and drive it a few hundred miles with the 4bbl on it, that way if anything goes wrong with fuel or leaks or anything, then it just hurts the carb. After that, it's EFI with megasquirt as my stand alone computer

there is no problem i have motor motor mounts hearders mufflers power steering pump brackets, i have everything he needs to set it in fire it up and drive it

[CJman77]

Chevy Chevy Chevy Chevy 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.... My goal is to rip everything AMC out of my Jeep. Cause it all sucks

[JeepnBlake]

360 is a bolt in with the right parts, 350 will never be a bolt in.

[Big_Pete1999]

Originally Posted by JeepnBlake

360 is a bolt in with the right parts, 350 will never be a bolt in.

A chevy will bolt in with the right parts too
360 will never be a bolt in

[redbird2289]

with the right parts it would be...

[carnuck]

Don't forget the adapter costs with Chev swaps! 350 = 304 if both are carbed.

[Big_Pete1999]

Originally Posted by carnuck

Don't forget the adapter costs!

exactly. $100+ for motor mounts, up to $400+ for transfer case adapters. Headers (if needed), etc... can add up REAL QUICK. That's for both AMC and Chevy v8 swaps.

[redbird2289]

why not invest in your 258 and be one of the few and proud to say they have a top notch better than factory 4.2 or just put in a darn 4.0

[mudnut]

Ok Even though I've got the rad and TBI for the Chebby coming I'm going to go with the 360, mainly because of the relatively simple install, and this may sound like a minor thing but the devil's in the details, I hate where GM put the dizzy on the Chevy engines. Petty I know but hey it's a pain.

I'm picking up kw89425's set up, and I'll get the TBI put on once I'm tired of running the carb. Much easier as he has everything I need and I won't have to drop 500 on a T-case adapter.

If performance parts for Buick engines weren't so much I would consider a Buick 350 or even a 455, put some aluminum heads and an intake on a 455, along with aluminum pistons and you're approaching the weight of a stock 350. Heads and intake would chew up way too much money though as Buick builds aren't near as popular as Chevy builds.

I'm not a total purest but I do like the thought of keeping an AMC engine in the Heep. My main goal is to get this done in time for next wheeling season...

[Big_Pete1999]

Originally Posted by mudnut

Ok Even though I've got the rad and TBI for the Chebby coming I'm going to go with the 360, mainly because of the relatively simple install, and this may sound like a minor thing but the devil's in the details, I hate where GM put the dizzy on the Chevy engines. Petty I know but hey it's a pain.

I'm picking up kw89425's set up, and I'll get the TBI put on once I'm tired of running the carb. Much easier as he has everything I need and I won't have to drop 500 on a T-case adapter.

If performance parts for Buick engines weren't so much I would consider a Buick 350 or even a 455, put some aluminum heads and an intake on a 455, along with aluminum pistons and you're approaching the weight of a stock 350. Heads and intake would chew up way too much money though as Buick builds aren't near as popular as Chevy builds.

I'm not a total purest but I do like the thought of keeping an AMC engine in the Heep. My main goal is to get this done in time for next wheeling season...

Good luck They say that an engine swap in your jeep is one of the best things you'll ever do to it. I decided to go the 350 way, because of parts availability. It did kinda sting, cause I wanted to keep it all AMC, but I figured that the benefits of easy to find parts would pay off in the years to come.
You came to the right place for info though. check out Dave's '83 Build thread (243 is his handle here). He has TONS of pictures in there, but you'll see how fun, but how detailed some of these things can get.