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post #31 of Old 05-12-2008, 04:40 PM
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I'm having the same problem. Can't find a setting tool for a Nutsert that large, so here's what I'm going to try:



I got two bronze thrust washers, just to have some good bearing surface, and also polished up one side of the nut with emory cloth for the same reason. My reasoning is that I should be able to hold the bolt stationary and turn the nut to set the nutsert.


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I'm having the same problem. Can't find a setting tool for a Nutsert that large, so here's what I'm going to try:



I got two bronze thrust washers, just to have some good bearing surface, and also polished up one side of the nut with emory cloth for the same reason. My reasoning is that I should be able to hold the bolt stationary and turn the nut to set the nutsert.
That might work. When I got mine, there was close to 10 "tools" in the box of nutserts. I will get it tomorrow and measure it. The problem you will run into is you need a inside diameter washer where it will fit into the nutsert and spin freely, so it won't bind, that is the way the tools is designed.

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Great write-up, especially for folks who don't weld their own stuff, and/or don't want to spend a lot on a custom cage!

Looks great!
To reiterate...this is *NOT* a substitute for a cage, so don't do this and go off thinking that you have a cage and kill yourself or become a vegetable.

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Gotcha ...and 100%.

Sorry, I used the word "custom cage" loosely.

I fully understand that no way, shape, or form is this anything more than a rollbar!

I would venture to say the majority of Jeepers who own a true "caged" rig, never actual field test theirs either.

However it is safety related, so we cannot reiterate it enough!

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post #35 of Old 05-12-2008, 08:33 PM
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Mine is going to be a fancy grab bar for my wife to get in and out!

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Mine is going to be a fancy grab bar for my wife to get in and out!
My Irish redhead of a wife wants me to install a couple pair of handcuffs on the rollcage for effect!

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post #37 of Old 03-02-2009, 09:27 AM
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I bumped this thread as I just swapped out the bar myself in my CJ.

But no one around here carries a nutsert, some don't even know what I'm talking about. Anyone that has these at ACE can get me a stock number or a pic of the package so my ACE guy can get it in?

I've looked at Tractor Supply, ACE, Lowes, no luck.

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I ran across this home made nutsert / riv-nut tool a while ago. Have not tried it yet but have a feeling I may when I go to pull my skid next week.

http://www.fjr1300.info/howto/rivnut-tool.html
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post #39 of Old 03-02-2009, 12:00 PM
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Frame Mounted Roll Bar

I did this swap last summer and now my project is to have someone anchor the YJ bar to the frame. (other than 2 bolts the fiberglass tub is the only thing holding it.) I know Kentrol makes a kit for this, but I was wonder if anyone has pictures of what they did when anchoring it to the frame. Iím just looking for ideas so I can present them to the person I hopefully find to weld on my cage.

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I ran across this home made nutsert / riv-nut tool a while ago. Have not tried it yet but have a feeling I may when I go to pull my skid next week.

http://www.fjr1300.info/howto/rivnut-tool.html
Thats pretty slick. I can't get them anywhere though. We have a Fastenal in town too (new) but they'd have to order them.


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Is this possible on a CJ5?
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post #42 of Old 03-21-2009, 10:54 AM
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Hi Bard -

Thanks for your quite useful posting about how to retrofit a YJ family cage into a CJ. I have almost finished this project thanks to your good advice (into my '82 CJ-7).

One question I have for you is whether or not you had a problem with the length of the seat belts in the rear. Everything went in fine like in your directions and when I finally climbed in the back to try it out, I could barely get the shoulder/lap belt around my torso (I'm 6'2" / 190 lb so that shouldn't really be the problem). I also tried putting in my kids booster seat in the back. While that was a little better, it was still a tight fit.

I can probably try to rig up something to extend the length of the female end but I am curious to see if you had a similar problem. In your photos, it looks like the belt goes thru the back of the car seat which means you are not likely to see the problem. However, if you put a kid in a booster seat and the belt routing changes, you might have a problem.

Thanks again for your tips.

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OK I am checking to see how the soft top issue has went? Has anyone had any issues getting a besttop super top to work with this set up?

Thanks for the input I am sure I will be doing a little modification to get it to work correctly.

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no problems with the super top..

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I specifically asked Bestop if the Wrangler Supertop would work with the YJ Sport Bar in my CJ. They said no problem.

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