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Unread 10-16-2013, 02:53 PM   #1
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Which carter carburetor is on my '80 CJ7?

Hi, I need to order a new quadratec carter bbd carb for my '80 CJ7, but there are three different models on the quadratec website and I'm not sure which one mine is. I'll upload a few pics and would really appreciate a nod in the right direction!

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Unread 10-16-2013, 09:07 PM   #2
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BBD Carter
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Unread 10-16-2013, 09:14 PM   #3
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Whoa, those are expensive.
Why not rebuild it for that price?
Yours looks like mine on my '83 but I also know it's an older version carb without the stepper motors since it was nuttered.

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Unread 10-16-2013, 09:34 PM   #4
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Fill in your Profile and you may get better answers, still wrong but specifically wrong. Where you live and your drive train would be important info in selecting a carb.

Looks like an 1983-1986 manifold but a possibly 1980 tag on that carb. It reads 8368S but my book only starts at 1981. I have 8308S and 8338S but not 8368S. Could you check again the Tag number?

It is however a non-stepper non-emissions non-feedback Carter BBD with an electric choke for a 258ci, what you would expect to see on a 1980 CJ. I am unsure if it is for an Auto or a manual from the Tag, which gearbox do you have?
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Unread 10-16-2013, 09:43 PM   #5
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The new one to fit 81 to 90 for $320 will fit. It is a "BBD type" and from Crown which are both warning signs as is being new and made by Carter.

For $460 there is a remanufactured 1980 BBD without electronics. This is the one for your CJ.

Whether or not you need the remanufactured one will depend I suspect on local smog laws and whether you have to retain original equipment.
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Unread 10-16-2013, 11:02 PM   #6
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If you have basic skills and the manual I would suggest spending $15 on the rebuild kit and $10 on carb cleaner and put in a couple of hours trying to resurrect it.

Before you do though have a wiggle of the throttle spindle as over time they CAN eat into the metal of the carb and wear an air path that is most undesirable. If there is very little play it is worth attempting a rebuild and clean.

I struggled for 5 years with a BBD, some years it performed OK. I finally came into some money and bought a Weber 38DGMS for less than the reman Carter BBD> FABULOUS.
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Unread 10-25-2013, 03:52 PM   #7
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Thanks Bagus! I'll definitely fill in my profile as soon as I find out how to do that (does it have to be via the website?) in the meantime, I live in Cairo, Egypt, where it's blazing hot year round, and the only smog law is that it's every man for himself! It's a manual gearbox.

I've had another good look and the tag actually reads 8388S (rather than 8368S). Is your recommendation still the same?

Unfortunately I'm just a beginner so I'm gonna try the rebuild someday soon just for the experience, but for now if I want the car to run I'm gonna have to shell out for a new carb..

Thx again
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Unread 10-25-2013, 07:25 PM   #8
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A Napa kit has everything I ever needed. Buy a 1 gallon can of carb dip. From napa or Walmart. Soak everything not plastic over night. Every hole you see shoot with carb cleaner. The nastier the better. (Berkable carb cleaner will remove paint. That I like). EVERY hole. Get a pin vice and drill out the emulsion tubes as per my YouTube video. My channel is "EugeneKingify" .037 is I believe the size. Learn by doing. If you screw it up do it again. You bought a CJ it will make you broke or turn you into a mechanic. Put it back together paying attention to the needle assembly and . Jeephammer use to say the only problem with the BBD is the person putting it together. Any questions ask! There are many here that would or will say junk it for a motorcraft or Weber 38. 20 bucks fixes most problems. Putting new bushings in fixes the rest. That's about 25 to 30 more dollars and a hell of a lot cheeper than a reman carb or a ford or weber replacement. Learn the search tool and search my posts. In one of them I took a junkyard carb and totally redone it. Including bushings for the throttle shafts. With part numbers for everything I used.
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Unread 10-26-2013, 04:21 PM   #9
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Thanks Web, this'll definitely help when I eventually do attempt a rebuild, and I'll be sure to check out your YouTube clips. One of the problems I have living in Egypt, is that I can't find the right tools or cleaning agents, for example Carb Cleaner just doesn't exist here. I asked around and found that mechanics commonly use paint thinner as a substitute, even I know that sounds like bad news. I've searched and read several posts on the subject, it seems WD40 is sometimes used instead, and it's available here. Can you confirm or recommend an alternative that might be commonly available over here?
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Unread 10-26-2013, 05:30 PM   #10
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Paint thinner will work on the metal parts. Problem is its not under pressure which helps in cleaning.
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