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Unread 10-18-2011, 09:16 PM   #1
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carrying ridiculous amounts of water

in the interests of wastng time on a tuesday night, has anyone added, to a cj8, an under body, rear water tank (or tubes linked in series) rearward of the gas tank in order to carry copious amounts of water in a hostile (read desert) environment? I was thinking of linking, say 4 x 4" diameter, 2-3ft long pipes at the back. Add a pump or a gravity feed tap and voila... water on tap! thoughts?

PS (im bored of pretending id ever figure out a 4.3 TBI junkyard swap so i came up with white pipe and blue glue )

id olike to see an install if anyone has one?

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Unread 10-18-2011, 09:24 PM   #2
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we carry 80 gallons in a tank in our brush jeep at the fire house.

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Unread 10-18-2011, 09:25 PM   #3
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i would imagine that it would weigh more than its worth. for the rare occasion that you would need it, just carry extra jugs
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Unread 10-18-2011, 09:27 PM   #4
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ben, the ryans, thankyou for confirming that someone does! I was hoping for a picture, diagram , parts list, weight, dimensions.... actualy i wasnt! I just thought itd be cool to offer the ladies a wash room thus enticing further their presence!

I know its heavy, but it could work if really needed to stay a week or more 'out there', no?
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Unread 10-18-2011, 09:36 PM   #5
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ben, the ryans, thankyou for confirming that someone does! I was hoping for a picture, diagram , parts list, weight, dimensions.... actualy i wasnt! I just thought itd be cool to offer the ladies a wash room thus enticing further their presence!

I know its heavy, but it could work if really needed to stay a week or more 'out there', no?
we are about to restore the CJ7 this year. I can take picutres this week. we are looking at running an engine driven pump. We will also use a 90-100 gallon poly tank to save weight. Along with an aluminum hose reel and 150-200 feet of 3/4" line. It will be setup with a 2.5" fintake in the front bumper and rear end. there will also be a 1-3/4" disharge on the front and rear if we needed to pump straight to the Jeep, using it as a manifold/booster pump and push a larger line.

There will be a build thread when it starts.

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Unread 10-18-2011, 09:39 PM   #6
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OP how many gallons would you need for a week?

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OP how many gallons would you need for a week?

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hey Bill, does your company run a brush rig? If so how many gallons and how is it setup?

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We don't have any brush equipment. Its all city stuff, 5 of our 13 engines each carry 400' of 1" single jacket. We add that to 200' of 1" reel line. The same 5 have 2 back pack's that hold 5 gallons. The VFD dept's use either a JD Gator, or a 4x4 pickup.

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Unread 10-18-2011, 10:11 PM   #9
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OP how many gallons would you need for a week?

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1' of 4" PVC holds 0.6528 gallons. 5" is a gallon per foot.

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Unread 10-19-2011, 08:56 AM   #10
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I live in what you might call a hostel environment, around hear in the summer a trip in the desert can include 120 degrees, and a trip through stop and go on four lanes of black top gets hotter than that. I use a 5 gallon gas can for engine water and just bring 1 gallon jugs for drinking water. you don't want to drink water that has bean stored on the jeep for extended periods of time as it goes stagnant, and flushing and cleaning your containers is more trouble than it's worth, it's easer to stop at the gas and gulp and buy pure water for $1.00 per gallon when your headed out. As to how much to carry, desert survival says 3 gallons per day per person, you would be amazed at how much and how fast that dry hot air can pull out of you. I also do out door work and go threw this on a daily bases, I tend to drink 4 gallons of water and 2 32oz. Gatorade's. hope that helps.
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Unread 10-19-2011, 09:46 AM   #11
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Read about how Mike Boyink installed a freshwater tank in his CJ6 here: http://boyink.com/cj6/onboard-fresh-water-system/

Granted, it's a lot smaller tank than you're talking about, but the basics are the same. You could mount a much larger tank in a CJ8 in the area behind the gas tank, probably at least 10-15gal if you were creative about it. I would probably only consider doing this if I was camping for extended periods in the Jeep with only a tent. Jeeps dont' have an abundance of space for storage of water cans, so something like this could free up some storage space for other supplies.
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I would use a plastic tank - the weight of steel tubing vs. the amount of water you can carry in steel tubes just isn't worth the fab time and weight.
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Unread 10-20-2011, 04:37 PM   #13
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There is a bladder that fits in the bed of pick ups to add weight that is filled with water. I don't remember the name but shouldn't be to hard to find. They had them to fit in car trunks too.
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There is a bladder that fits in the bed of pick ups to add weight that is filled with water. I don't remember the name but shouldn't be to hard to find. They had them to fit in car trunks too.
thumbs down on those.....mine busted after two uses
plus there is no room for anything else wherever the bladder lies
nothing can rub or poke up against it
waste of money for mobile applications
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I live in what you might call a hostel environment, around hear in the summer a trip in the desert can include 120 degrees, and a trip through stop and go on four lanes of black top gets hotter than that. I use a 5 gallon gas can for engine water and just bring 1 gallon jugs for drinking water. you don't want to drink water that has bean stored on the jeep for extended periods of time as it goes stagnant, and flushing and cleaning your containers is more trouble than it's worth, it's easer to stop at the gas and gulp and buy pure water for $1.00 per gallon when your headed out. As to how much to carry, desert survival says 3 gallons per day per person, you would be amazed at how much and how fast that dry hot air can pull out of you. I also do out door work and go threw this on a daily bases, I tend to drink 4 gallons of water and 2 32oz. Gatorade's. hope that helps.
I just spent the last ten years in Phoenix...I agree!
Storing a water tank worth of water under my jeep seems to be a little on the overkill side...
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