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Unread 08-12-2012, 05:08 PM   #1
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Cannot identify year of my jeep

imgur photo album for pictures to my description below: http://imgur.com/a/CHaE0

I recently purchased an old jeep from someone, it was just sitting in his woods rotting out. I've managed, through extensive google searching and some guessing, to figure out that it might be early 60s. However, I'm not sure.

The engine block number I have is 807895, with a long space, and then the number 16. I know that this engine block was produced from 56ish to 74ish, and I believe it is original, but I'm not entirely positive.

On the inside of the hood/engine section, on the driver side, I have a sticker that says 'Jeep 8305 181285, Jeep corporation, toledo ohio'. All my searching through VIN's has produced exactly zero matches, especially since there are no letters, which all the others had.

On the inside of the hood/engine, there is a small sticker that simply says '225 (long space) 261' I believe.

The headlights are slightly bubbled out, and there are 6 spokes on the front grill. The 'clicker' lights are directly below the headlights. There is only one side mirror, which is on the drivers side, and it does not appear as if another even belonged on the passenger side. It is a 3spd transmission, and has a H/L stick, as well as what appears to be a 2w/4w stick. I do not believe the roll bar is original. The gas tank is under the drivers seat. The windshield is a single pane, with the wipers on the top.

I hope that is descriptive enough that my question can be answered. Thank you for any help!

I uploaded all the photo's to imgur and posted them all in a single album, the link is at the top.

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Unread 08-12-2012, 06:06 PM   #2
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1958 cj5

The block casting number is the same block used from 1950-1971.
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Unread 08-12-2012, 06:09 PM   #3
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What a great project!! Thanks for saving that old 5. Here is a link that might provide the help you need decoding your VIN. Good luck, and Welcome to the Forum.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f96/j...ecoder-508783/


Edit* '82 beat me to it!
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Unread 08-12-2012, 06:09 PM   #4
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The guys on here will point enough details to tell exactly what year it is, where it was made, and what color socks the guy that assembled it was wearing.

Great job saving one from dying a slow death alone in a field somewhere. Welcome to the club.
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Unread 08-12-2012, 06:20 PM   #5
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The guy was wearing white tube socks with blue stripes around the top....
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The guy was wearing white tube socks with blue stripes around the top....
nuh-uh... you're wrong about that one. He had on black socks and heavy black-framed glasses.
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Oh wait, that was Tuesday... I was thinking it was built on Thursday..
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Unread 08-12-2012, 07:34 PM   #8
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Well if it was built on a mon or a fri u dont want it! lol
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Well if it was built on a mon or a fri u dont want it! lol
CJ's must have been built only on Mondays and Fridays.
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Unread 08-12-2012, 10:20 PM   #10
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1958 cj5

The block casting number is the same block used from 1950-1971.
thank you very much! I was afraid I didn't put enough details in the message, but you seemed to get it right on the head.

Its going to take a lot of work, as you could see from the pictures..I gutted most of it already though, the chairs are in the shed next door. Tore out all the carpets, vacuumed most of it up, and I pulled the spark plugs and squirted some WD40 down the cylinders, going to try and take a wrench on the block tomorrow. I'll keep you guys updated on the process of this guy!

Oh, and does it look mostly/all original? I'm not really wanting to have a hash-together, and since most of it will need to be replaced(you can see more chassis than floor pan in the back...)
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Unread 08-13-2012, 04:50 AM   #11
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Just below the thermostat, the engine serial number is stamped into the block, should match the tub serial
On the passenger side top of frame rail just in front of the tub the serial number will be found there as well
First section of the ID number is the build code, (8305) second set is serial/build number (181285) this is the number that should match on the tub, frame and engine if it all came together. Records were poorly kept,,,,, and sometimes serial numbers were used out of order,,,,
Another site for serial number look up: (8305 is not listed)
http://www.public.asu.edu/~grover/willys/serial.html
As for that engine being locked up (forget the wd40 (water displacement 40th attempt)) try DOT 3 brake fluid mixed 50/50 with dexron (atf) down the plug holes (about 1/4 cup each)(and some down the carb) and let it set at least over night, try to rock it, don't force it take your time. I have also read (on the Old Willys Forum) where the cam had locked on an F head. This may take several days, I would pull the starter and use a short bar (heavy screwdriver) the try to turn the engine
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1958 cj5

The block casting number is the same block used from 1950-1971.
Could you tell me the unique parts that helped you determine that its a '58? I'll be needing to go to DMV to get the car titled, and I want to have a proper year's title for it, rather than a 2012 title.

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In 1958, the serial numbers started with 82878 and ended with 97918. Yours falls in that model year. There were virtually no changes for many years, so finding an identifying feature specific to 1958 will be difficult if not impossible.
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In 1958, the serial numbers started with 82878 and ended with 97918. Yours falls in that model year. There were virtually no changes for many years, so finding an identifying feature specific to 1958 will be difficult if not impossible.
My number is "81285" though, isn't it? Or am I looking at the wrong place? I'm very new with this..
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Yours is 8305

Jeeps didn't get VIN's until 1962
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