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post #1 of 12 Old 04-30-2011, 11:28 PM Thread Starter
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Can a ford 5.0 be adapted to an sm465?

Just like the title says, can the ford 5.0 be adapted to a chevy sm465?

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Not sure if there's any factory parts that would work, I doubt it and I've never seen an adapter made by a leading company but it could be done. You'd need a way to go from the 465 bell housing pattern to the 5.0. That would be easy enough. Then you'd have to address the flywheel and clutch assembly. It might be better to use the GM flywheel that way you could use a GM started too and that starter would bolt to the bellhousing. Or you could adapt a Ford bellhousing to the 465 and use Ford components.

With some thought and work it could be done. Why not just use a T-18 or 435? They already fit the 5.0.
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Because I already have a nearly new sm465 in my cj behind the I6, which is starting to sound a little rough...I realize a chevy engine would be a ton easier, but I really like the 96-2000 yr ford 5.0s
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Because I already have a nearly new sm465 in my cj behind the I6, which is starting to sound a little rough...I realize a chevy engine would be a ton easier, but I really like the 96-2000 yr ford 5.0s
The 465 is definately a good transmission, no doubt. Can you do any of the machining work yourself? From what I know, or think I know, it's going to take some custom parts to get the 465 mated to the Ford. In the long run it might be cheaper to either go with a GM engine or trade your 465 for a T-18 or 435. That's the practical side, but then we don't always go that direction do we.
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Just like the title says, can the ford 5.0 be adapted to a chevy sm465?
I'm sure there's a Ford Windsor to Chevvy V8 bellhousing adapter plate out there - start searching at Novak or Advance Adapters

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Well I have a friend who works at a machine shop, and he can, and has welded up an aluminum bellhousing to effectively make it a blank so I could drill and tap to fit almost anything, so if I could get a ford or whatever bellhousing to fit the 5.0, I would just have to have the trans side welded or retapped and have the bellhousing turned out to fit the sm465 bearing retainer. Or have the sm retainer turned down to fit the ford bellhousing I suppose?
Although a new 5.3 chevy would be easier...but I like the high winding 5.0 better, especially with no overdrive!
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Hey I'm with you on the 5.0, I think they're one of the best CJ swaps going. Doing one myself.
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Really? What trans are you goin with, and what year engine? Keeping it stock or modding it for some real hp? You anywhere near virginia, and have any pics yet?
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I'm in Missouri. I am using a Ford T-18 with the granny low 1st gear, not quite as low as your 465 but close. I bought an adapter from Advance Adapters to mate the Dana 300 to the T-18. I'm not sure on the engine. I have thought of using it in stock form but it's got over 100k on it so maybe I'll take it apart and if I do it'll get some go fast stuff. Oh it's a 95 H.0. 5.0 out of a Mustang.

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Normally I'd just think about swapping transmissions for the 5.0 but I like the 3.58 second gear the sm464 has since its effectively my "first" gear...none of the other truck trans have that lower second gear which I like and need with my relatively high 3.54 axle gears which gives me a great cruising speed with my 33's...if I had the money I'd without a doubt go for the nv4500. I take a couple long distance trips a year so with no overdrive I dont wanna go any lower in gearing, ive thought about an nv3550 but I'd rather have a trans with a granny crawlin gear, and peace of mind ill never break the sm465. My 258 is great around town but the highway...ugh that things screamin doin 70 mph...and its starting to get alittle noisy, some clacking goin on and gettin a little louder each month although it runs great and doesn't burn or blow a drop of oil. That 5.0 would be nice and happy doin 2000-2500 rpm doin 70 no problem. What kind of mileage do they get?
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i know this thread is a little older-- but im in the process of doin this adaptation with a c-4 automatics bell housing i had sitting around the shop, (its the removable type), i really love this transmission lol, as well as i have this, its t case, and a chevy axle and with bills to pay switchin to all ford is a little expensive lol, so the flywheel is from my old stang, its a 10 inch, along with its pressure plate, then i use a 10.4 inch disk with the 1.125-10 spline input....then put it all together or just jump to 11 inch clutch components-which is white i will be doing down the road- check my thread im gunna start updating itif all goes according to plan(does it ever) i will be spending less than 100$ on this

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Another option is the ZF 5 speed...comes behind 87-95 F250 with six cylinders and 5.0 /5.8 V8's,
they are getting easier to find in Junkyards and online....comes with a 5.7:1 first and an overdrive.
You would need adapter..converts the dana 300 to 31 spline.
clutch and pressure plate from an 80's bronco along with the hydraulic throw-out bearing,
Use a CJ clutch master cylinder...no linkage to bind up off roading....suck's big time if the throw-out bearing goes out.
Finally you would need a modified skid plate and a 1" body lift and a CV rear drive shaft...whew!
On second thought just rebuild the six and add fuel injection.
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