California EGR or Federal EGR - JeepForum.com

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 12 Old 06-18-2013, 05:53 AM Thread Starter
kurty65
Registered User
1983 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Hingham
Posts: 28
California EGR or Federal EGR

Does anyone know the difference ?

kurty65 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 12 Old 06-18-2013, 06:02 AM
John Strenk
Moderator
 
John Strenk's Avatar
1976 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Shalersville Ohio
Posts: 15,392
Orifice size.

I think there were 6 different flavors for the 258. California, 48, Canada, other exports...

I6:
1 VALVE, EGR
5300 1090 1 1983-86: US-49 States
5300 1089 1 1983-86: CANADA
3300 1943 1 1984-86: US-California, with Manual Transmission
5300 1089 1 1984-86: High Altitude Operation

I4:
J324 2018 1 US-49 States
J324 1721 1 US-California
2 VALVE, EGR
J324 0193 1 1981-83: US-49 States, with Manual Transmission
J324 0379 1 1981: US-49 States, with Automatic Transmission
J323 7108 1 1981: US-California, with Manual Transmission
J323 7107 1 1981: US-California, with Automatic Transmission
J323 7107 1 1982: US-California, with Manual Transmission
J323 7108 1 1983: US-California, with Manual Transmission
J323 7106 1 1982: EXPORT, Australian Design Rules, Sweden
J324 2039 1 1983: EXPORT, Australian Design Rules, Sweden
John Strenk is offline  
post #3 of 12 Old 06-18-2013, 06:11 AM
John Strenk
Moderator
 
John Strenk's Avatar
1976 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Shalersville Ohio
Posts: 15,392
The "Vacuum Harness" is interesting also.:

HARNESS, Vacuum
With Manual Transmission
J324 0371 1 1981: Without US-California, without Heavy Duty Cooling,
without Hilly Terrain, Identified CG
J324 0369 1 1981: Without US-California, with Heavy Duty Cooling, without
Hilly Terrain, Identified CE
J324 0368 1 1981: Without US-California, without Heavy Duty Cooling, with
Hilly Tertain, Identified CK
J324 0375 1 1981: Without US-California, with Heavy Duty Cooling, with
Hilly Terrain, Identified CD
J324 0603 1 1981: US-California, with Heavy Duty Cooling, Identified CW
J324 0751 1 1981: CANADA, without Heavy Duty Cooling, Identified EH
J324 0752 1 1981: CANADA, with Heavy Duty Cooling, Identified EF
J324 0752 1 EXPORT, with Heavy Duty Cooling, Non-Regulated Markets,
Identified EF
J324 0751 1 1981: EXPORT, without Heavy Duty Cooling, Non-Regulated
Markets, Identified EH
J324 0470 1 87,88 1981: EXPORT, without Heavy Duty Cooling, Australian Design
Rules, Identified AG
J324 0471 1 87,88 1981: EXPORT, with Heavy Duty Cooling, Australian Design
Rules, Identified AH
J324 2072 1 1982: Without US-California, without Heavy Duty Cooling, with
Hilly Terrain
J324 1355 1 1982: Without US-California, without Heavy Duty Cooling,
without Hilly Terrain
J324 1363 1 1982: Without US-California, with Heavy Duty Cooling, without
Hilly Terrain
J324 2073 1 1982: Without California, with Heavy Duty Cooling, with Hilly
Terrain
J324 2031 1 1982: US-California, with Heavy Duty Cooling
J324 2149 1 1982: CANADA, without Heavy Duty Cooling
J324 2150 1 1982: CANADA, with Heavy Duty Cooling
J324 2604 1 1982: Japan, with Heavy Duty Cooling
J324 2149 1 85,87,8 1982: EXPORT, without Heavy Duty Cooling, Non-Regulated
Markets
J324 2150 1 85,87,8 1982: EXPORT, with Heavy Duty Cooling, Non-Regulated
Markets
3300 1014 1 1983
3300 1032 1 1983: High Altitude Operation
J324 2293 1 87,88 1983: EXPORT, without Heavy Duty Cooling, Sweden,
Switzerland
J324 2288 1 87,88 1983: EXPORT, with Heavy Duty Cooling, Sweden, Switzerland
J805 1796 1 1983-84: EXPORT, with Heavy Duty Cooling, VAM, Built in
Mexico, Engine Build Code "M", Non-Regulated Markets
3300 1632 1 1983-85: Japan
3300 1032 1 1984: Without US-California
3300 2074 1 1984: Without US-California, with High Altitude Operation
3300 1720 1 87,88 1984-85: EXPORT, Australian Design Rules, Sweden,
Switzerland
3300 1014 1 1985-86
5300 2703 1 1985-86: Without US-California, with High Altitude Operation
With Automatic Transmission
J324 0367 1 1981: Without US-California, without Heavy Duty Cooling,
Identified CN
J324 0380 1 1981: Without US-California, with Heavy Duty Cooling,
Identified CC
J324 0604 1 1981: US-California, with Heavy Duty Cooling, Identified CV
J324 0474 1 1981: CANADA, without Heavy Duty Cooling, Identified AL
J324 0475 1 1981: CANADA, with Heavy Duty Cooling, Identified AM
J324 0475 1 87,88 1981: EXPORT, with Heavy Duty Cooling, Non-Regulated
Markets, Identified AM
J324 0474 1 87,88 1981: EXPORT, without Heavy Duty Cooling, Non-Regulated
Markets, Identified AL
J324 0476 1 87,88 1981: EXPORT, without Heavy Duty Cooling, Australian Design
Rules, Identified AN
J324 0477 1 87,88 1981: EXPORT, with Heavy Duty Cooling, Australian Design
Rules, Identified AP
J324 1770 1 1982: Without US-California, without Heavy Duty Cooling,
without Hilly Terrain
J324 1358 1 1982: Without US-California, without Heavy Duty Cooling, with
Hilly Terrain
J324 1768 1 1982: Without US-California, with Heavy Duty Cooling, without
Hilly Terrain
J324 1372 1 1982: Without US-California, with Heavy Duty Cooling, with
Hilly Terrain
J324 2105 1 1982: US-California, with Heavy Duty Cooling
J324 2147 1 1982: CANADA, without Heavy Duty Cooling
J324 2148 1 1982: CANADA, with Heavy Duty Cooling

J324 2603 1 1982: Japan, with Heavy Duty Cooling
J324 2147 1 87,88 1982: EXPORT, without Heavy Duty Cooling, Non-Regulated
Markets
J324 2148 1 87,88 1982: EXPORT, with Heavy Duty Cooling, Non-Regulated
Markets
J324 2091 1 87 1982: EXPORT, without Heavy Duty Cooling, Australian Design
Rules
J324 2093 1 87 1982: EXPORT, with Heavy Duty Cooling, Australian Design
Rules
J324 2294 1 87,88 1983: EXPORT, without Heavy Duty Cooling, Australian Design
Rules, Sweden, Switzerland
J324 2289 1 87,88 1983: EXPORT, with Heavy Duty Cooling, Australian Design
Rules, Sweden, Switzerland
3300 1032 1 1983-84: Without California
3300 1015 1 1983-84: US-California
J805 1841 1 1983-84: EXPORT, without Heavy Duty Cooling, VAM, Built in
Mexico, Engine Build Code "M", Non-Regulated Markets
J805 1840 1 1983-84: EXPORT, with Heavy Duty Cooling, VAM, Built in
Mexico, Engine Build Code "M", Non-Regulated Markets
3300 1633 1 1983-85: Japan
J324 2262 1 87,88 1984-85: EXPORT, Sweden, Switzerland
J324 2289 1 87,88 1984-85: EXPORT, Australian Design Rules
With Manual or Automatic Transmission
J324 0764 1 1981: EXPORT, with Heavy Duty Cooling, Economic
Commission of Europe, Identified ES
J324 0763 1 1981: EXPORT, without Heavy Duty Cooling, Economic
Commission of Europe, Identified EP
J324 2261 1 87,88 1982-85: EXPORT, without Heavy Duty Cooling, Economic
Commission of Europe
J324 2262 1 87,88 1982-85: EXPORT, with Heavy Duty Cooling, Economic
Commission of Europe
5300 0427 1 1983-86: EXPORT, without Heavy Duty Cooling, Non-
Regulated Markets
5300 0426 1 1983-86: EXPORT, with Heavy Duty Cooling, Non-Regulated
Markets
5300 0434 1 1983-86: CANADA
3300 1015 1 1985-86
John Strenk is offline  
post #4 of 12 Old 06-18-2013, 08:42 AM
titomars
Registered User
1981 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Santa Rosa
Posts: 1,808
Only difference is the orifice size. But if you are trying to pass a smog inspection either will work. The inspectors don't check part numbers. They only check for function. I will add it has to be vacuum plumbed according to where it was originally sold. For you most likely federal.

If you are trying to find the a valve with the least impact on your engine a high altitude version will have the smallest orifice.

1981 Jeep CJ7 4.0 HO, AX-15, D300, D30, D44, SOA
1977 Chevrolet C/10 step side 454 TH400 3.73 posi
titomars is offline  
post #5 of 12 Old 06-18-2013, 10:20 AM Thread Starter
kurty65
Registered User
1983 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Hingham
Posts: 28
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Strenk
Orifice size.

I think there were 6 different flavors for the 258. California, 48, Canada, other exports...

J324 2018 1 US-49 States
J324 1721 1 US-California
2 VALVE, EGR
J324 0193 1 1981-83: US-49 States, with Manual Transmission
J324 0379 1 1981: US-49 States, with Automatic Transmission
J323 7108 1 1981: US-California, with Manual Transmission
J323 7107 1 1981: US-California, with Automatic Transmission
J323 7107 1 1982: US-California, with Manual Transmission
J323 7108 1 1983: US-California, with Manual Transmission
J323 7106 1 1982: EXPORT, Australian Design Rules, Sweden
J324 2039 1 1983: EXPORT, Australian Design Rules, Sweden
So how do I determine which one I need, I'm doing a 83 restoration CJ 7, my intake/ exhaust are off a 86, is there some indicator stamp that let's me know?
kurty65 is offline  
post #6 of 12 Old 06-18-2013, 10:29 AM
John Strenk
Moderator
 
John Strenk's Avatar
1976 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Shalersville Ohio
Posts: 15,392
Yeah, the size is usually stamped into it but I don't have the number.

Do you have an I4?

Since you live in MA, I would go with
J324 0193 1 1981-83: US-49 States, with Manual Transmission

http://www.rockauto.com/dbphp/x,carc...EGR_Valve.html

AC Delco
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/more...405&cc=1180842

Standard auto
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/more...114&cc=1180842


If you are doing a restoration and worried about the proper EGR with matching numbers, Why are you using an 86 intake manifold?
John Strenk is offline  
post #7 of 12 Old 06-18-2013, 12:07 PM Thread Starter
kurty65
Registered User
1983 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Hingham
Posts: 28
Awesome, thanks for the info. Does I4 mean 4 cylinder ? If so, I have an I6. I have another question if you don't mind, do I have to run water thru my intake or can I bypass those ports
kurty65 is offline  
post #8 of 12 Old 06-18-2013, 12:15 PM Thread Starter
kurty65
Registered User
1983 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Hingham
Posts: 28
I'm not worried about matching the numbers, I just didn't know which EGR to use or if it made a difference. The 83 exhaust manifold was cracked, and the 86 was available, so I used it.
kurty65 is offline  
post #9 of 12 Old 06-19-2013, 02:50 AM
John Strenk
Moderator
 
John Strenk's Avatar
1976 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Shalersville Ohio
Posts: 15,392
Quote:
Originally Posted by kurty65 View Post
Awesome, thanks for the info. Does I4 mean 4 cylinder ? If so, I have an I6. I have another question if you don't mind, do I have to run water thru my intake or can I bypass those ports
Depends were you live. Brownsville Texas, Probably not but if you're above the 40th Parallel You probably are going to need to keep it heated so you don't have problems in cold weather.

It keep the gas from condensing on the inside of the manifold making it too lean at idle and stalling and too rich when diving as the extra fuel is sucked in. It's mainly for drive ability issues.

If you have an I6 I'd get one of these:
http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Re...0038%2b2038003

Particually the Federal one:
http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Ca...096_0374724666

I don't know what the goodwrench stuff is but the base looks wrong for the first one.
John Strenk is offline  
post #10 of 12 Old 06-19-2013, 06:25 AM
Matt1981CJ7
Web Wheeler
 
Matt1981CJ7's Avatar
1981 CJ7 
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Elbert
Posts: 16,712
The aftermarket EGRs that I've seen come with multiple washers, so that you can adjust the orifice to whatever you need.

Matt
Attached Thumbnails
EGR1.jpg  
Matt1981CJ7 is online now  
post #11 of 12 Old 06-19-2013, 08:17 AM Thread Starter
kurty65
Registered User
1983 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Hingham
Posts: 28
Great guys, thanks for the info, I'd be pulling my hair out if it wasn't for the help.
kurty65 is offline  
post #12 of 12 Old 06-27-2013, 10:15 PM
dslywalker
Registered User
1983 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Glendale,Arizona
Posts: 1,563
we need a chart for the nutted versions of engines.God knows 90% aren't running what they need to for a egr. How would you figure that

Jeep Naked
Put some color in your Cheeks
dslywalker is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the JeepForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid e-mail address for yourself.



Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome