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Unread 03-25-2014, 05:15 PM   #721
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Looks great! Too bad the starter sucks.

I really like those metalcloak fenders. I will have to buy some.

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Unread 03-25-2014, 05:21 PM   #722
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Man im so jealous you have no idea. I cant wait to diagnose problems again and be done with this fabricating building.stage
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Unread 03-25-2014, 05:45 PM   #723
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Looks great! Too bad the starter sucks.

I really like those metalcloak fenders. I will have to buy some.
Thanks, I'm hoping its the starter but this is the second one I have put in the jeep. Granted both were used parts, I just hope it's that easy of a fix as swapping a new one in.

I really like the metal cloaks too, i wish they made a rear bumper/carrier for CJ's
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Unread 03-25-2014, 05:46 PM   #724
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Man im so jealous you have no idea. I cant wait to diagnose problems again and be done with this fabricating building.stage
I hear you, 5 years of build time was a distant memory once I was driving it. I just hope my no-start issue is an easy fix.
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Unread 03-26-2014, 03:35 PM   #725
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I swapped the starter with a spare and that did not correct it. It was worth the 15 minutes to try. No click of the starter solenoid, no lugging of the starter.

I have 12.67v across the battery terminals and across the starter solenoid large lugs. When I turn the key forward my volt gauge moves to 10v then drops right to 8v. My fuel pump sounds weaker now too when it powers up. My guess is that the problem lies somewhere between the ignition switch and the starter solenoid. I don't have anymore time to spend on it today.
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Unread 03-26-2014, 03:54 PM   #726
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Are the negative and positive cables new? If not it's one of them. Get jumper cables, pull the starter, ground starter case to frame, positive to starter and touch the battery. What happens? This will tell you if either of the cables are the culprit. Good luck. BTW if you do this, stand on the starter cuss' it will dance.
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Unread 03-26-2014, 07:14 PM   #727
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Are the negative and positive cables new? If not it's one of them. Get jumper cables, pull the starter, ground starter case to frame, positive to starter and touch the battery. What happens? This will tell you if either of the cables are the culprit. Good luck. BTW if you do this, stand on the starter cuss' it will dance.
All of the wiring and cables are new. Both starters kick on when tested. I think I burnt a fuse or a switch.
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Unread 03-26-2014, 09:47 PM   #728
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What gauge are the wires? Small wires can wreak that kind oh havoc. Also make sure your solenoid is well grounded. Use those pokey style lock washers between the solenoid and the body to bite into the metal better. One current restriction can heat up the whole circuit.
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Unread 03-27-2014, 12:14 AM   #729
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What gauge are the wires? Small wires can wreak that kind oh havoc. Also make sure your solenoid is well grounded. Use those pokey style lock washers between the solenoid and the body to bite into the metal better. One current restriction can heat up the whole circuit.
Both battery cables and my main grounds are 4 gauge, my Solenoid to starter cable is heavy 2 gauge. The rest of the wiring is all new painless kit.

I'm gonna check all fuses and ignition wiring tomorrow. My neutral safety switch is wired to an on off switch on the dash, maybe the switch failed when I kept trying to start the jeep over and over.
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Unread 03-29-2014, 03:14 PM   #730
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Here's the culprit, a bad ground. The plastic around the terminal melted. I moved it over to the other lug and it started right up.
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Unread 03-29-2014, 03:26 PM   #731
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I ran it for a bit and got it to normal operating temps then shut down and tried to restart it = no go. The starter lugs but doesn't turn hard enough to start it up, which is great if I only need to drive one way without stopping. Also, now I have an engine oil leak from the bell housing which I assume is my rear main seal leaking.
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Unread 03-29-2014, 04:31 PM   #732
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Man what a pain, my rear main is leaking too which blows my mind because i was extra careful on the install...it is possible that it just needs to be run and broken in
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Unread 03-29-2014, 05:03 PM   #733
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Your Jeep sure looks great! I'm sure you'll get those minor kinks worked out easy.
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Unread 03-29-2014, 10:00 PM   #734
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Man what a pain, my rear main is leaking too which blows my mind because i was extra careful on the install...it is possible that it just needs to be run and broken in
I hope so.
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Unread 03-29-2014, 10:04 PM   #735
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Your Jeep sure looks great! I'm sure you'll get those monor kinks worked out easy.
Thanks Jim, the leaks just irk me. I'm sure that I messed up the rear main somehow while I was removing and reinstalling the trans. It took some adjusting to get it all lined up. It's odd though because it (engine) didn't leak after I drove it the other day, only when I started it up today.
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