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Unread 02-23-2015, 08:59 AM   #1
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Borgeson or Omix Ada steering shaft for 77 cj5?

Steering shaft is shot on both ends. Think thats whats causing my uncontrollable wandering. Is the omix ada hd shaft w/2 joints ok or should I go ahead and invest in the borgeson steering shaft?

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Unread 02-23-2015, 09:00 AM   #2
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Forgot to add its a 77 cj5 with power steering.
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Unread 02-23-2015, 09:11 AM   #3
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Not a huge fan of the Omix shaft I just put on. The clamp on the upper end, and the bolt, were not nearly as 'beefy' as the OEM shaft. I can't remember what the torque specs were for this bolt, but I do remember that there was no chance to get anywhere near the spec without tearing the threads off the little bolt they provided. I'm just running stock tires and suspension, so I suppose it will do. But considering that's about the last bolt I would like to see go - I would not recommend this purchase.
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Unread 02-23-2015, 09:13 AM   #4
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Borgesson. No contest
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Unread 02-23-2015, 09:32 AM   #5
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borgesson. No contest
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Unread 02-23-2015, 09:54 AM   #6
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I have the borgenson HD one for my cj7 (1984) so far its great. Side by side its a easy pick of the clear winner.
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Unread 02-23-2015, 10:03 AM   #7
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I got the Omix or crown standard replacement and stripped the splines on the shaft after about 8 mos. stock cj7 on 31's. They warrantied it out for the HD shaft for just the cost diffrence, It doesn't seem too much more durable... The HD shaft made a huge diffrence in the feel of my steering.
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I went with the Borgeson and am happy with it.
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Unread 02-23-2015, 11:27 AM   #9
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Ok looks like borgeson is a heavy favorite around here. I want to get it right the first time. So a totally worn out steering shaft and lower column bearing would give the symptoms of not being able to control the steering right? I do have a 1" (2" longer than stock) shackle lift. But I think the shaft is my main problem.
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Unread 02-23-2015, 11:31 AM   #10
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Ok looks like borgeson is a heavy favorite around here. I want to get it right the first time. So a totally worn out steering shaft and lower column bearing would give the symptoms of not being able to control the steering right? I do have a 1" (2" longer than stock) shackle lift. But I think the shaft is my main problem.
Don't be surprised when the new shaft doesn't fix the wandering completely.

If/when that happens, fix your caster.

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Unread 02-23-2015, 12:23 PM   #11
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I can deal with some wandering but not the way it is. Ive had a 78 bronco on 38's for 20 yrs so I know how they will wander some......but this thing is a death trap. Ive never been afraid to drive something until now.
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Prior to installing a Borgeson steering shaft on my last CJ7, you could grab the stock shaft in the middle and shake it like crazy due to all of the slop/play that had developed. I tested the Borgeson the same way and there was no play at all. It definitely improved upon the steering in that there wasn't as much play in the steering wheel (I didn't have to make constant adjustments) while driving, but like Matt said, if your steering angles are off and/or your suspension is worn, you will still have control issues.
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By buying Borgeson, there's a much better chance you're buying a product made in the USA:

http://www.borgeson.com/shoptour.html
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Unread 02-23-2015, 02:41 PM   #14
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I probably will buy the borgeson. I was just wondering if I could get by with the double jointed omix ada because this jeep will never see more than 300 road miles in a year. Its just a woods toy for me and the kids but I would like to be able to drive it to Lowe's or the store occasionally on nice days. Nothing more than 20 miles roundtrip.
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Unread 02-23-2015, 02:52 PM   #15
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There are many pieces to the steering puzzle that can cause problems, but the borgesson shaft cured 90% of mine. The rest is all castor like Matt said.

Let me put it this way.

If you're having steering problems, I feel bad for you son. I've got 99 problems and my shaft ain't one
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