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post #1 of 16 Old 06-02-2013, 10:52 AM Thread Starter
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Bellhousing starter threads stripped

Hey everybody!
Engine rebuild on the 258 I-6 went well. Purrs like a kitten! A few leaks here and there, but working on those.
However.......my exuberant assistant mechanic, who installed the starter managed to finally stip out the threads (sorry strip) out the threads in the bellhousing. I invested in a premium starter, and don't want to blow this starter up......as we are on starter number 8.
I tried the heli-coil, per instructions....lasted maybe 3 starts before the grind.
I drilled the helicoil out, and got creative.....grade 8 cap bolt, all the way thru. No luck....same old grind.
I have read older posts about this problem, and its solutions. (Helicoil, have hole welded shut and re-drilled/tapped).
Any final ideas?????
Before I pinch out another $400 or so bucks?
I thought about the used bellhousing route........but I put the money into the motor, I really don't want to crawl up under the beast and change a used bellhousing that might have the same problem in 6 mths to a year.
I've had enough grease for awhile. It's time to drive!!!!
And the fish are biting here in Florida, and "Blackbeard" is my fishing/part time work vehicle. Thanks all!


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post #2 of 16 Old 06-02-2013, 10:59 AM
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Replace the bellhousing. What transmission do you have behind the 258?

I'm also in Florida, and I may have one for you. Where are you located?

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post #3 of 16 Old 06-02-2013, 12:10 PM
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8 starters? I know you need to fix the hole regardless but I'd be inclined to find the cause of why you are eating starters like that.

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Hey guys, I am running the wimpy 5spd. right now. It does what I ask of it. To Max, I am in Jacksonville. Close to GA border. To Jeepwhore, yep 8 starters! No kidding. New flywheel too! The bellhousing bolts holes I guess just got to that point. I also was using Autozone starters, and taking them back once a week. Switched to Napa starters, and had 2 go bad on me, then I found the premium starter. Worked great till the pillhead mechanic stripped the bellhousing starter bolt hole.
So Max, if you have a b-housing and it isn't in bad shape.........I might be interested.
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Also make sure the alignment dowels and spacer plate between the bell housing and engine block are in place. If either were forgotten when you reinstalled the engine it could cause you similar problems.

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Yep. Alignment dowels(2) in place on the engine block side, and aluminum spacer plate in remarkably good shape. I thinks the holes are just wallered out too much. And if a fellow doesn't spring the extra bucks for a premium starter.........the regular re-mans, I believe the bolt holes are done wore out in them too. Hell, one starter didn't even have the brass bushing in the nose cone! First start....and it broke the whole nose off. Again....Auto zone. Check, and double check their stuff. And then check it again.
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My parents live on base at Mayport Naval Station, and I'm just north of West Palm Beach.

What transmission do you have? I have many bellhousings and I want to get you the right one.

We usually end up in Jacksonville ever so often, so I may be able to drop it off.

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Hey Max,
Thats funny, I am working in Neptune Beach today, and I frequently fish on the North side of Mayport off Heckscher Dr.! Small world!
Let me get under the beast later today, but I am pretty sure the trans is a T-5. I think that was the only 5spd. trans they offered in 1986.But let me make sure. You think you might have a good bellhousing? Marc
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I may very well have one.

If the shifter itself is curved, and it's a 1986 6 cylinder/5-speed, it's a T-5.

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Max, yes shifter is curved. The 258 I-6 is an 1984. Found that out in the rebuild. But body is 1986.
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Also make sure the alignment dowels and spacer plate between the bell housing and engine block are in place. If either were forgotten when you reinstalled the engine it could cause you similar problems.
Does anyone have pics of what the alignment dowels look like? same with the spacer plate please.

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Alignment dowels:


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Thanks JP

I believe the dowels on my setup are in the engine block....
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Thanks JP

I believe the dowels on my setup are in the engine block....
Yup, that's where mine are as well

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The advertised position for a topless, dirty jeep girl has been filled......by my wife. Thanks to all that applied.
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And from what I understand, they have to be on the engine block side, otherwise trans alignment/installation problems will ensue.
Max, any luck with finding a bellhousing? I gotta get this thing running, if you don't have one let me know asap, and I'll choke down a new one. Thanks
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