Axle Swap Weekend (Picture Heavy) - JeepForum.com
Search  
Sign Up   Today's Posts
User: Pass: Remember?
Advertise Here
Jeep Home Jeep Forum Jeep Classifieds Jeep Registry JeepSpace Jeep Reviews Jeep Gallery Jeep Clubs Jeep Groups Jeep Videos Jeep Events Jeep Articles
Go Back JeepForum.com > Models > Jeep CJ Forum > Axle Swap Weekend (Picture Heavy)

BLACK FRIDAY SPECIALS!! You asked, we deliver!Rough Country Lift Kits and Parts!XJ Rail Sale!

Reply
Unread 08-22-2010, 09:50 PM   #1
MoC
Registered User
1986 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The otherside of your monitor...
Posts: 5,649
Axle Swap & Truss Install Weekend (Picture Heavy)

Let me start by thanking everyone for answears to my questions over the last week or so. Also a HUGE thank you to LSUTiger for the help this weekend!! I bought a set of used widetrac axles off of Craigslist. Amc 20 with one piece shafts, rugged ridge diff cover, detroit locker, tubes welded. Dana 30 Loc Right locker, Chromoly draglink / tie rod with heims. Both have 4.88 gears. They were set up to run SOA. Also ordered a truss from Besrk, which I was more than pleased with. Both Saturday and Sunday were 100 plus degrees outside. Started by cutting the old perches of the axles so that I could set them back to SUA. Got the old front axle out, new one in and caster set to 8. Then tacked the front, pulled it out and finished welds on the perches. Got it painted and reinstalled. After the the rear came out. New rear went in, rear yoke set 2 degrees lower that the tcase yoke, the perches tacked.The only took about 9 hours with a few breaks here and there.

100_4654.jpg   100_4660.jpg   100_4666.jpg   100_4668.jpg   100_4672.jpg  


Last edited by MoC; 08-23-2010 at 12:27 PM..
MoC is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 08-22-2010, 09:54 PM   #2
MoC
Registered User
1986 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The otherside of your monitor...
Posts: 5,649
Today took the rear back out. Got the perches welded, truss installed and the axle back under the jeep. Truss got welded with a combo of Mig and Tig.
100_4672a.jpg   100_4676.jpg   100_4678.jpg   100_4686.jpg   100_4688.jpg  


Last edited by MoC; 08-22-2010 at 10:12 PM..
MoC is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 08-22-2010, 09:58 PM   #3
MoC
Registered User
1986 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The otherside of your monitor...
Posts: 5,649
Called it quits around 3pm. Next weekend I am going to switch out breaks, install lines, parking brake and bleed everything. Then flip the tie rod and drag link, drive shafts, install shocks, and axle vent lines. One more day!! Again thanks everyone for the help and the truss Rocks!! Thanks Besrk!
100_4690.jpg   100_4691.jpg   100_4694.jpg   100_4695.jpg  
MoC is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 08-22-2010, 10:25 PM   #4
Trapshooter
Registered User
1986 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Jacksonville, Oregon
Posts: 2,309
Wow....you were busy this weekend. Who is the manufacturer of the front shackles you have? Are you running YJ leaf spings?

Keep posting the pics, would like to see her all done.
__________________
'86 CJ7, 258, Carter BBD, Nutter'ed, TeamRush'ed, T-18, Twin Sticked Dana 300, D30 Frt-Pwr Lok L/S-4.10, AMC 20 Rear-Mosers-Detroit Locker-4.10, 2.5 BDS Lift, 1" Body Lift, 33" Wild Country M/Ts, Black Spoke wheels

'45 CJ2A, L134 Go Devil, T-90 Tranny, Warn O/D, T-18 T-Case, Dana 25 Frt, Dana 41 Rear, 531st CJ made

My 401 build: [url]http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/trapshooters-401-build-1338277/[/url]
Trapshooter is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 08-22-2010, 10:29 PM   #5
Skerr
<*////><
 
Skerr's Avatar
1985 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: White Springs, Florida
Posts: 8,912
MoC! You Rock! Nice work. Nice shop too! What kind of spring plates are those? Are they factory??
__________________
Kerrdog
Go Fish! <*////><

But the right word at the right time... "Hey, give me a little hug!" That's the difference between lightning and a harmless lightning bug!
Skerr is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 08-22-2010, 10:31 PM   #6
MoC
Registered User
1986 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The otherside of your monitor...
Posts: 5,649
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trapshooter View Post
Wow....you were busy this weekend. Who is the manufacturer of the front shackles you have? Are you running YJ leaf spings?

Keep posting the pics, would like to see her all done.
The springs and shackles are all part of the RE 4.5" lift kit. The front springs in the RE lift are 2.5" wide like YJ springs.
MoC is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 08-22-2010, 10:40 PM   #7
MoC
Registered User
1986 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The otherside of your monitor...
Posts: 5,649
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skerr View Post
MoC! You Rock! Nice work. Nice shop too! What kind of spring plates are those? Are they factory??
The spring plates are warrior 2.5 inch perches. Since I am running a RE lift with 2.5 fronts and rears I went with the larger perches for the front. I would love to claim the shop but it is not mine. Belongs to a buddy. The hot driveway is mine though!! The only problem I ran in to with the new perches was on the front install. The factory perches are small up front and inset to fit around the pumpkin. With the larger perches I had to grind the inside of one side out to get it to sit flat. The picture is of the old perch before I cut it off. For the truss I also had to relocate the rear axle breather. Took the old on out, welded the hole closed. Drilled a new hole and welded in a compressor fitting. Will post a picture of it tomorrow. Besrk gave me a great tip on drilling the new hole. If you keep the tip of the drill bit loaded up with grease most of the metal filings stick in the grease and stay out of the axle.
100_4661.jpg  
MoC is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 08-22-2010, 10:42 PM   #8
Trapshooter
Registered User
1986 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Jacksonville, Oregon
Posts: 2,309
Gotcha......I'd love to install a RE 4.5 on my '86 CJ7. One of these days......
__________________
'86 CJ7, 258, Carter BBD, Nutter'ed, TeamRush'ed, T-18, Twin Sticked Dana 300, D30 Frt-Pwr Lok L/S-4.10, AMC 20 Rear-Mosers-Detroit Locker-4.10, 2.5 BDS Lift, 1" Body Lift, 33" Wild Country M/Ts, Black Spoke wheels

'45 CJ2A, L134 Go Devil, T-90 Tranny, Warn O/D, T-18 T-Case, Dana 25 Frt, Dana 41 Rear, 531st CJ made

My 401 build: [url]http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/trapshooters-401-build-1338277/[/url]
Trapshooter is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 08-22-2010, 10:51 PM   #9
Shasta69
Registered User
1978 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Washington
Posts: 240
what man cave has a vanity mirror in it?

nice post btw!
Shasta69 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 08-23-2010, 12:18 AM   #10
MoC
Registered User
1986 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The otherside of your monitor...
Posts: 5,649
Another good tip is to make sure the ground that you are setting the front caster angle and rear driveline angles on is level. I normally do all my work in the backyard, however the concrete area back there was not level so I had to do it in the driveway.
MoC is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 08-23-2010, 09:10 AM   #11
LSUtiger
Registered User
1980 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Shreveport, La.
Posts: 1,133
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skerr View Post
MoC! You Rock! Nice work. Nice shop too! What kind of spring plates are those? Are they factory??
The plates are the ones that come with the Rubicon lift kit.

"what man cave has a vanity mirror in it?"
LOL. He is a contractor who repairs old stuff in his spare time.
__________________
1980 cj5 401, t-176, p/s., YJ p/b, tfi/hei hybrid, 3.73 30/44
LSUtiger is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 08-23-2010, 03:24 PM   #12
BESRK
GROUND POUNDER
 
BESRK's Avatar
1980 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Newport News, VA
Posts: 12,279
Nice work!! Truss looks good. I like that diff cover too.. I've never seen one like that before. Thanks for posting pics too!!
__________________
'80 CJ5 w/AMC360, T176, D44 w/Detroit 4.56, RE 4" YJ lift and 35s..

Ground Pounder Fab


Lower 2

Guardrail

Down Schoolbus

Slickrock Tellico

Save

Crozet

More Crozet
BESRK is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 08-23-2010, 04:45 PM   #13
MoC
Registered User
1986 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The otherside of your monitor...
Posts: 5,649
Quote:
Originally Posted by BESRK View Post
Nice work!! Truss looks good. I like that diff cover too.. I've never seen one like that before. Thanks for posting pics too!!
The rear diff cover is a Rugged Ridge cover. Thanks again for the truss!

If anyone is looking for an AMC 20 truss Besrk makes a GREAT one. He was quick on shipping and great with any questions I had.
MoC is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 08-23-2010, 07:57 PM   #14
Shasta69
Registered User
1978 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Washington
Posts: 240
happen to know what type of filler rod the welder used? preheat? postheat?
Shasta69 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 08-23-2010, 08:41 PM   #15
MoC
Registered User
1986 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The otherside of your monitor...
Posts: 5,649
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shasta69 View Post
happen to know what type of filler rod the welder used? preheat? postheat?

He Tig'ed the cast nocular to the truss with a silica bronze rod I think. Everything stayed a little warm, maybe in the 200's while welding the truss. No direct post heat. We took about 3 hours total and the weld job, letting the tubes cool so they did not warp.
MoC is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the JeepForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid e-mail address for yourself.
Note: All free e-mails have been banned due to mis-use. (Yahoo, Gmail, Hotmail, etc.)
Don't have a non-free e-mail address? Click here for a solution: Manual Account Creation
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Thread Tools


Suggested Threads





Jeep, Wrangler, Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, and other models are copyrighted and trademarked to Jeep/Chrysler Corporation. JeepForum.com is not in any way associated with Jeep or the Chrysler Corp.