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Unread 11-25-2009, 07:52 PM   #1
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Axle ? Good swap?

I want to put a 44 front and a 60 rear in my 85 cj7.

I have a chance to get my hands on axles out of a 1978 J20 jeep pickup,
HD44 front axle, with 8 lug outers, Passenger side drop Gears unknown at this time
Dana 60 rear axle, centered version Gears unknown at this time

Question is, Is this a good swap or should i be looking for a 44 and 60 out of something else? what can i do with these?
I can pick these up for $100 each.

I also want to keep 5x5.5 wheels and not go full width. just want stonger axles.
What would be involved with these axles?

Please share your input.

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Unread 11-25-2009, 09:51 PM   #2
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Well it sounds like a good deal but you wanna be sure that both the gear ratios are the same otherwise there will be some serious problems when you go to drive it. If it was me I'd look at getting two Dana 60s out of a late 70's era 3/4 ton Chevy myself and narrowing them. Then if you upgraded to a heavier transmission and transfercase you'd have a bomb-proof Jeep.
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Unread 11-25-2009, 10:09 PM   #3
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I plan on re gearing anyway as well as a new engine and transmission
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Unread 11-26-2009, 05:53 AM   #4
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What size tires? The stock 30/20 combo (with some upgrades) is good to 33" and possibly 35" if you aren't running big HP, have a heavy foot, and keep the wheel spin down. I've got an internet Jeep buddy that runs 35's on his CJ5 with an injected 258/T5, and has been to Rubicon, Moab, etc. without issues.

You can probably pick up a set of waggy 44's for a decent price, and they would be the simplist route to take. However, if you are even thinking about running 37's or larger, go with the 60/60, 60/14blt, or 60/9".
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Unread 11-26-2009, 12:51 PM   #5
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the jeep wont see much offroad, mostly street, and i am trying to set it up for BIG - BIG HP and 35" tires
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Unread 11-27-2009, 05:53 AM   #6
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So.... How much 'showing off' are you going to be doing? And be honest, 'cause four wheel burnouts are going to require a different setup than two wheel burnouts.
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Unread 11-27-2009, 08:02 AM   #7
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If it's not gonna see much of any offroad, and you want to be able to run huge horsepower, just go with a 14bolt rear and never have to worry about it again. The 60 would be marginal in my opinion with high horsepower and street antics.
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Unread 11-27-2009, 01:47 PM   #8
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probably no 4 wheel burnouts, only 2, and alot of getting on it!! heavy foot!
with 400 - 450 HP is my plan
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Unread 11-27-2009, 02:01 PM   #9
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just wondering, what would be the purpose of 35" tires if its only going to be for street use?
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Unread 11-27-2009, 06:48 PM   #10
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just wondering, what would be the purpose of 35" tires if its only going to be for street use?
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Unread 11-27-2009, 06:50 PM   #11
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of course, form>function
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Unread 11-27-2009, 08:27 PM   #12
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Given your build, why don't you go for the engine/transmission swap first?
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Unread 11-27-2009, 09:04 PM   #13
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because, I have this down to just a Frame. And I need to decided on axles as it is my next step in my frame up build. I dont want to put the 30 -20 back in as i know it wont handle the HP and 35's I have in mind for it. I was thinking that a 44F and a 60R would be what i need at this point. I am needing suggestions on going that route. weather it be - building these, and what doners to get them from? taking in to consideration parts and labor/hassle if i were to try and build them myself.
Or if i should not bother trying and just call Currie Enterprises and get it done.
What are the costs/hassle involved in either building these, or ordering them from a place like Currie?
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because, I have this down to just a Frame. And I need to decided on axles as it is my next step in my frame up build. I dont want to put the 30 -20 back in as i know it wont handle the HP and 35's I have in mind for it. I was thinking that a 44F and a 60R would be what i need at this point. I am needing suggestions on going that route. weather it be - building these, and what doners to get them from? taking in to consideration parts and labor/hassle if i were to try and build them myself.
Or if i should not bother trying and just call Currie Enterprises and get it done.
What are the costs/hassle involved in either building these, or ordering them from a place like Currie?

You mentioned you don't want to go full width. Pretty much every 44/60 you can swap in you'll have to narrow or your going to stick a lot. The jeep axles you mentioned are around 63-64" wide. Stock you had 56" wide axles so finding a fender flare if needed in your state to cover the tires up might be hard to do... Dana 44's from a 74-79 waggy are around 59" which would be closer to stock width... Maybe a Nodular 9" with 31 splines from a fullsize truck would handle the torque if you trussed it. I think you can convert them to the 35 spline shafts... not sure. Your probably talking about alloy shafts in anything you decide on with 400+ horsepower, 35's, and a locker.
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Unread 11-27-2009, 10:03 PM   #15
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I'd like to know what motor your building for that many ponies
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