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Unread 01-28-2013, 05:59 AM   #16
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IF there is no power at the plug, you have to go back to search for were it lost power.

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Unread 01-28-2013, 06:07 AM   #17
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IF there is no power at the plug, you have to go back to search for were it lost power.
Yeah, that's the part where my eyes glaze over, and I usually find something else to work on.

I'm not sure how you boys work on issues behind the dash, without pulling it off. My old body doesn't contort like that anymore.

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Unread 01-28-2013, 06:11 AM   #18
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Mirrors!

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Unread 01-28-2013, 06:15 AM   #19
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I just ignore it until they go away...
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Unread 01-28-2013, 06:21 AM   #20
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I just ignore it until they go away...
The thing is, I'm one dash indicator light, one dome light, and one side-marker light away from having a 100% operational CJ.

Of course, if I fix those things, then something else will surely break, so maybe your method is best.

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Unread 01-28-2013, 06:29 AM   #21
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This is true.

My CJ NEEDS to have something wrong with it so if it's something minor, I'll play along and just ignore it....
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Unread 01-28-2013, 09:27 AM   #22
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Morning Gents, I think I'm getting warmer. I have two questions;
I traced one black wire from the headlight switch to the negative end of the bullet connector. I can't see where the second black wire goes.

Where does the orange wire from the square connector go?

They both seem to lead to the top of the steering column. I'm leaning toward a ground issue with that 2nd wire from the switch. Yes? No? Maybe?
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Unread 01-28-2013, 12:38 PM   #23
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I'm not going to be a lot of help until tomorrow when I get home from work. But, and I'm working from a 58 year old memory, I want you to check the connector that I told Matt about earlier. This is the harness that carries the wires to the rear of the tub. They include brake/signal, back up, fuel gauge, parking lights, This connector should be just to the drivers side and slightly above the E-brake release.if memory serves correctly there is a orange wire in that group, possibly with a tracer. The orange wire is throwing me off a little.

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1984 Grand Wagoneer, 1 ton axles, great 360/727, and a big a$& tree fell on it .
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Unread 01-28-2013, 03:05 PM   #24
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That connector has no orange or black. The orange and black for the original dome light runs along side it. The both enter a separate connector then run behind the fuse panel.
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Unread 01-28-2013, 03:22 PM   #25
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Unread 01-30-2013, 03:09 PM   #26
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Just to be safe, I replaced the headlight switch, but that made no difference. So here's where I'm at;
If I run a wire from the dome light ground wire to a good ground, the courtesy lights come in.
If I jump pos and neg from the battery to dome light wiring, the dome light comes on.
Can I assume that there is a loss of ground between the headlight switch and the original ground wire to dome/courtesy lights?
I cannot see where the 2nd black wire from the headlight switch goes to (1goes to the courtesy lights). If this is the bad ground, where might I find where it's hooked in?
A black and orange wire come from behind the fuse panel to a connector (see photo), then to the dome light.
Everything else is working. Where do I go from here?
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Unread 01-31-2013, 03:26 PM   #27
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Can anyone give me a clue on where the orange and black wires start?
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Unread 01-31-2013, 04:42 PM   #28
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If you clip the test light to the ground lug on The back of the switch, turn the switch to dome light, and then the test light to 12 volts positive, will the test light,light up ? If not, and you put the new switch in, the switch may not have a good ground.

On the orange and black connector I can only guess it comes from a fuse in the fuse block.( The fuse was checked , correct) The black wire is ground, so if you hooked that with the ground to the Courtesy lights. ( assuming you find the ground problem) and then the positive ( orange wire) to a 12 volt source in the fuse block all the lights should work. Just check with your test light for a source in the block. I believe the clock (clk) is always on.



For temporary connections I use a length of wire, stripped back and push it in where the existing wires go in.
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1973 J 4000,
1978 CJ7 DD.
1979 CJ7 360, TH400/Quadratrac trail Jeep.
1979 J20
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1983 CJ7 pretty weekend and sometimes to work Driver in the summer, My first rebuild, if the Q-trac and 5 are broke, this one is the one to take. its just as capable as the other 2, except nice paint.
1984 Grand Wagoneer, 1 ton axles, great 360/727, and a big a$& tree fell on it .
1989 YJ the CJ to YJ conversion.
2005 TJ Rubicon.
2011 Grand Cherokee Laredo 4x4, Mrs. LUCDOG's DD.
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Unread 02-01-2013, 09:03 AM   #29
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Okay, I have power at the org/blk connector. I hooked a jumper to a known good ground and touched the neg side of that connector (outbound side). All lights came on correctly. So, I assume that means the ground coming into that connector is not good. Where is it connected? I can follow it up to the top of the fuse block and then lose it. Could it be routed from the headlight switch (the 2nd ground wire from the dome light lug) to a ground location?
When I reinstalled my dash after painting, I ran all new ground wires to the chassis and dash and made sure everything was solid.
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Unread 02-01-2013, 09:27 AM   #30
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Make sure you have the correct headlight switch.

The ground terminal on the headlight switch ids grounded through the dash by the nut holding the headlight switch to the dash.

If your dash is well painted then you may not have a good ground
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