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Unread 04-28-2006, 07:38 PM   #1
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AMC 360 or Ford sb?

still not sure which engine to use in my CJ7...
I can't really find a decent AMC360 which doesn't require too much restoration work but I can get either a 302 efi or 351w efi...

the ford small block should bolt up to my t176 so adapting it to the drivetrain should not be an issue...

does anyone here have any experience with ford sb swaps? should I go for it or should I spend more time searching for a good amc?

also... how are the 360s on fuel? very poor milage or what? going to use the car as a daily driver so fuel consumption plays a big role... I know all v8 are fuel guzzlers but some are just a bit guzzlier than others...

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Unread 04-28-2006, 08:37 PM   #2
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are you sure a ford engine will bolt up to a jeep transmission? i dont think it will i would think you would need an adaptor, but i could be wrong... i would go with an AMC v8 then you wont need all new mounts and possibly adapters, just need passenger side mounts and both block brackets, nice and easy swap
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Unread 04-28-2006, 08:47 PM   #3
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Alas, I only have a 304 at the moment. I'd do like BLS33 suggested, stick with AMC. I'm sure BESRK will differ however, lol.
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Unread 04-28-2006, 09:18 PM   #4
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AMC without a doubt!! I am rebuilding a 360 as we speak.
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Unread 04-29-2006, 02:52 AM   #5
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are you sure a ford engine will bolt up to a jeep transmission? i dont think it will i would think you would need an adaptor, but i could be wrong... i would go with an AMC v8 then you wont need all new mounts and possibly adapters, just need passenger side mounts and both block brackets, nice and easy swap

ford small blocks should bolt to the t176 without any adapter according to Novak:

http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge..._cj7_80-86.htm

I live in Iceland and I'm pretty sure that finding a decent AMC here is MUCH harder than in it is in the US...
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Unread 04-29-2006, 03:05 AM   #6
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Just go with the 304, easy to find, then do it up with the pro injection FI.
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Unread 04-29-2006, 02:51 PM   #7
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ford small blocks should bolt to the t176 without any adapter according to Novak:

http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge..._cj7_80-86.htm

I guess you're right 80-86 t176's will bolt right up, thats an interesting fact never knew that, you will still need the new mounts tho and those are pretty expensive...keep your eye out for an AMC 360 or 401 from an fsj they will be much easier to find then a 304, in my opinion at least
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Unread 04-29-2006, 03:12 PM   #8
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IIRC the T-176 will bolt up to the Ford bellhousing, but the AMC bellhousing will not bolt up to the Ford block. In other words you'll need the Ford bh with the motor.
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Unread 04-29-2006, 03:13 PM   #9
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I am putting an AMC 360 in my YJ as we speak. I got a grand waggy for basically nothing, so a good running motor was basically free for me. I like the Ford for a couple reasons though. I like knowing that there is a ton of aftermarket support for Ford motors. The fuel injection is a plus too! With the AMC, there is much less aftermarket support, making the performance parts much more expensive than a Ford or Chevy small block. I do like the AMC because AMC motors are what Jeep used. I say this, but knowing I am using a Ford tranny and tcase. Go figure
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Unread 04-29-2006, 03:18 PM   #10
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I live in Iceland and I'm pretty sure that finding a decent AMC here is MUCH harder than in it is in the US...
Use whichever motor is available in Iceland. a 302 eats a LOT less gas than a 351, been running 351W's in my work trucks forever

I'd go 302 and hop it up if I needed more ponies, it's a good motor, almost as good at the 289 that came before it, torquee little bastard and good on gas, the 302 came about to make motors run on lower octane
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Unread 04-29-2006, 04:43 PM   #11
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Im suprised there hasnt been more support for the chevy small block. They are easy to find and parts are cheap and also easy to find. I've got one in a cj5 and I get better mpg than a buddy who runs a 360.
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Unread 04-29-2006, 04:46 PM   #12
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Im suprised there hasnt been more support for the chevy small block. They are easy to find and parts are cheap and also easy to find. I've got one in a cj5 and I get better mpg than a buddy who runs a 360.
The 350 is the best generic motor on earth, but I believe it takes an adapter to go on a jeep, but then again, parts and help are a lot more common

It's definetely an option
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I agree with the 350 swap, I have 360's in mine but parts and info are hard to find or expensive.
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Unread 04-30-2006, 07:04 AM   #14
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Until I saw the Iceland comment I would of course recommended the AMC/ Jeep 360 ( I am the amcjeepman after all) but I can imagine they would be a little harder to find there. So I'm going to go with a Small block Chevy, I wouldn't put a f*rd in anything.
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