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post #1 of 12 Old 03-09-2011, 09:45 PM Thread Starter
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AMC 304 Water Pump

Anyone have steps to replace water pump on a 304? Just want to make sure I am not missing anything.


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post #2 of 12 Old 03-10-2011, 05:40 AM
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1. Drain the radiator.
2. Loosen the P.S. Pump and alternator. (to loosen belts)
3. Remove fan shroud.
4. Remove fan.
5. Remove pump pulley.
Take pictures up close of all bolts and spacers.
6. Unbolt the pump.
7. Clean mating surface.
8. Chase all threads.
9. Use RTV on new gasket.
10. Reinstall.

Pretty straight forward as long as the "might as well's" don't get you!

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FWIW. I had a problem w/ overly-large/thick casting on BFN cast iron water pump at bottom hitting top of harmonic balancer. Check that before installation by putting it together w/ 3 or 4 bolts and no gasket and turning it thru. If
you need to, 2 minute job w/ Makita on a bench. Took me half a day 'cause I had it completely together, cleaned up and pretty

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post #4 of 12 Old 03-10-2011, 10:15 AM
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I recently replaced mine with a flowkooler aluminum pump and went as BioTex described. Should not be a big deal, unless you find some broken bolts to extract in the timing chain cover like I did...
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Can I go cheap and get a reman pump? Suggestions?

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post #6 of 12 Old 03-10-2011, 02:11 PM
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Can I go cheap and get a reman pump? Suggestions?
Nothing wrong with the pump below unless you're doing something very unusual...

http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Det...+50038+2038003
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post #7 of 12 Old 03-10-2011, 02:32 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you Curt.

The reason I was looking at replacing it was I have a leak but my leak seams to be where the timing chain cover connects to the block and not where the pump connects to the timing chain cover. Maybe I don't need a pump. What extra has to be done to remove the timing chain cover as well and replace that gasket?

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I have to take the power steering pump and alternator completely off.

Also 2 of the last 3 that I replaced hit the vibration dampner and the pump had to be shaved a little.

To take the timing cover off, all that's left after the waterpump is the vibration dampner, distributor and fuel pump.

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Quite a bit more. You need to pull the harmonic balancer, the timing gear set, and the fuel pump. You should lossen the front oil pan, and install a new timing cover crank seal.
While you are in there, you will want to replace those timing gears, and might as well replace/rebuild the oil pump.

Then there are those pesky bolts that strip out of the aluminum cover. I install studs in their place.

Then you will find the cover has eroded away on the inside where the water pump impeller rides. You will end up ordering a new cover...

Bene there done that several times now. Have fun!

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1971 800B with 345/T-19
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post #10 of 12 Old 03-10-2011, 02:50 PM
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Thank you Curt.

The reason I was looking at replacing it was I have a leak but my leak seams to be where the timing chain cover connects to the block and not where the pump connects to the timing chain cover. Maybe I don't need a pump. What extra has to be done to remove the timing chain cover as well and replace that gasket?
If you go that far you may also want to replace your timing chain - hope this helps from my 78 FSM. Take care - Curt
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I have to take the power steering pump and alternator completely off.

Also 2 of the last 3 that I replaced hit the vibration dampner and the pump had to be shaved a little.

To take the timing cover off, all that's left after the waterpump is the vibration dampner, distributor and fuel pump.
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and my post # 3.

Check it GOOD on a test fit before you get very far.
If you pull the T/C be SURE you inspect cam gear and fuel pump cam lobe for wear since you've probably seen the horror stories.On second thought, it'd almost be worth it to look for that reason alone.

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post #12 of 12 Old 03-10-2011, 06:33 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you! More than I want to chew off.

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