I maybe should have added that both my trail Jeeps have bias ply tires. When I've compared my IROC's to my buddy's radial IROC's there is a difference in sidewall thickness. I run 4 psi in mine with beadlocks, he doesn't go below 8 psi. :-), with 0 psi in the front tire on my 5, the rim is still 4" from the road/trail surface.
Front and rear lockers also play a roll in this. Where someone with open diffs will try to avoid a large sharp rock, and slid into the side of it, I would drive over it.
No spare in my opinion is partially driven by who you wheel with, any of the club members in my group wouldn't hesitate to drive 20 miles on or off road to get the spare for another member if needed. I sat on a trail for 2 hours 2 years ago after removing the ignition module from the HEI, so another member could drive his J truck off a extreme trail, (Wa&hita) without needing to tow and winch.
Matt, I've Jeeped in the Black Hills in S.D. I've never seen rocks as sharp as these. Google or search youtube for "Fruity pebbles" For one of the trails. It's close to same in Southern Missouri.
OP, sorry about the kind of off topic, sometimes I get carried away. I get excited about taking my Jeeps on the trails.
1957 WILLYS pickup,
1973 J 4000,
1978 CJ7 DD.
1979 CJ7 360, TH400/Quadratrac.
1980 CJ5 trail Jeep.
1989 YJ the CJ to YJ.
Thanks for the topic. Good to hear others opinions.
As of now I am planning not to carry a spare when driving local on the tar. Plugs, fix a flat, and a little compressor should get me home. Any trail riding in this area keeps you within walking distance to get out of the woods.
Plus I can always call my son to fetch me.
If you always do what you've always done. You will always get what you've always got.
Try to avoid using Fix-a-Flat if possible. Both tire places I go to say it can rust the insides of steel rims if you leave it in there long enough and throws the tire off balance, especially if its up front. I had a steel rim rusted bad on the inside from the PO using Fix-a-Flat. Its ok for an emergency situation to get you home, but better if you just have a spare to swap out.
Still bent out of shape about my comment about you putting Warn stickers on your Chinese winch huh
Not at all, you ask for an alternative to carrying a spare tire, and I gave you one. It may not be cheap, but with the looks of your rig, money is not one of your short comings, unlike me, with limited funds you get what you can afford at the time.
Ive always carried a full size spare no matter the vehicle. I was up cutting firewood in the mountains of Montana, 10 ply Toyo Open Country, sliced the sidewall of the tire on a rock just twice the size as my fist on a well maintained forest service road. No cell service, no CB, nobody around for 20 miles. Cost of a cord of wood just jumped up.
The CJ7 only has 2 ply sidewalls, wanted 3 ply but also didnt want the extra weight of each tire.
I'm with the "have a spare tire along crowd". Being that I don't get to go wheeling that often, a gashed tire really puts a damper on quality wheeling time with no spare on board. I do also carry a plug kit and have a York compressor on my ride.
I don't know what you load into the rear of the CJ8 but have you though about rearranging your stuff to bring the spare inside the body? I done this years ago on my flatty vs swing out on the bumper and loved it. Mind you I had 35" on steel,10 gal fuel,high lift,4 way wrench and an ax on it.
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usually I carry a spare on the trails as well as the street. On the trails I might not in case we need the back seat and/or the spare is close by in camp and easy to get in case the plugs and OBA won't get the job done. But we've even plugged tires with 2" gashes on the trail (no sewing with bailing wire or anything) and were able to drive them out ...
Never used the Slime stuff and never will ...
Just get good plugs and practice