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Unread 05-04-2013, 06:32 AM   #16
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I think I'm going to treat myself to something like this instead of a pneumatic.

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That's what I have been thinking also. Just have a small compressor for airing up tires, using a blow gun, or other small jobs.
Other than that, I think I'm going electric.

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Unread 05-04-2013, 06:39 AM   #17
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That's what I have been thinking also. Just have a small compressor for airing up tires, using a blow gun, or other small jobs.
Other than that, I think I'm going electric.

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Yep.

My compressor is large enough for air tools, but it's ancient and noisy. There's no way I could work in my garage with that thing cycling all day.

I'll probably buy a cordless in 3/8", and a full electrical in 1/2"

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I actually forgot about that. Plugging my compressor in and stretching the hose out as far as I could to get away from the noise.

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Unread 05-04-2013, 06:16 PM   #19
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I have really gotten to like my kobalt (lowes brand) 3/8" air rachet. As I get older, I appreciate a tool that will work for me. The air rachet works like a regular rachet in a way, you break the bolt or nut loose and then pull the trigger, voila, no carpel tunnel!
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Unread 05-05-2013, 12:03 AM   #20
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The problem with electrics is you need one for every use. Start adding up one for your 1/2 impacts, 3/8 impacts, and you can forget the air ratchet entirely. They will have to be quality tools in order to last.
They also will not give you the torque to take care of some of the tighter stuff, their endurance under load is relatively short, and their recovery (charge time) is fairly long.
I would suggest at a minimum, a 1/2 impact, 3/8 impact, 3/8 ratchet, and a die grinder.
Most all of the lower end tools such as CP will suffice for the weekend wrencher and occasional tire swap.
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Unread 05-05-2013, 12:29 AM   #21
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Most all of the lower end tools such as CP will suffice for the weekend wrencher and occasional tire swap.

Do you mean Chicago Pnuematic? Not sure now but they had the best 1" impact on the market for a long time, the CP-796.

I have used/worn out at least 10 of these. They hit hard and if you have the air, never stop. I have never considered CP to be "hobby".
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Perhaps Jeepdaddy meant "PC" = Porter Cable

Can you believe I couldn't find a single 3/8" impact at Lowes or Home Depot, today? They were all either 1/4" or 1/2".

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Harbor Freight has a brand line that sounds similar to Chicago Pneumatic just so it CAN be confused with the higher quality name. I can't think of it though.

Lots of good suggestions in here, although I can't think of what value a 1/4 inch drive impact wrench would have. Air ratchet, yes. Impact wrench? Nope.
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Harbor Freight has a brand line that sounds similar to Chicago Pneumatic just so it CAN be confused with the higher quality name. I can't think of it though.

Lots of good suggestions in here, although I can't think of what value a 1/4 inch drive impact wrench would have. Air ratchet, yes. Impact wrench? Nope.
Central pneumatic I think.
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Windknot,

I was thinking the same thing about a 1/4" impact. What the heck are they used for? I hardly ever use my 1/4 socket wrench.

Yet, that's all the big retailers seem to sell in the cordless variety. I don't get it.

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Harbor Freight has a brand line that sounds similar to Chicago Pneumatic just so it CAN be confused with the higher quality name. I can't think of it though.

Lots of good suggestions in here, although I can't think of what value a 1/4 inch drive impact wrench would have. Air ratchet, yes. Impact wrench? Nope.
Correct, I was referring to the [I]central pneumatic[I] brand line. Sorry, should have made that clear
As for the 1/4 impact, I run one quite frequently. It is a great time saver when being used for anything you would spinning a nut driver on. Small engines, interior trim, valve and pan removals, etc... It's small size and high power make is a snap to get into places that a 3/8 socket may not want to go.
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x2 on the 1/4 inch impact. its one of my favorite tools for the jeep anf around the house. drives screws better than any cordless drill. just need to realize its not a 1/2 inch impact wrench. i am a lineman by trade and we use them often at work with up to a 3/4 inch socket and they torgue down pretty tight.
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Hmm...I guess I can see using the 1/4" for little stuff, especially if you use it for a screw driver, as well. My old 18V Dewalt cordless driver is often too big to get into tight spots.

It just seems a 3/8" cordless impact would be more versatile to me. You can use it with larger sockets, and still adapt down to 1/4", if necessary.

Anyway, I love talking tools. I noticed the new wave in cordless tools is "brushless". Is that a marketing gimmick, or is there something to it?

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RE the 1/4" impact:

Okay, we're having a bit of a culture clash here. I was taught never to use an impact for driving stuff in; an impact wrench is for loosening. Is it done? Yes. Often in fact. Is it the right thing to do? No. Fasteners get over torqued. Have I done it? I'll plead the 5th on that one...

Generally speaking, I'll use an air ratchet for assembly and then torque by hand. I just can't fathom a fastener so small as to use a 1/4 inch wrench to be so torqued I couldn't loosen it by hand.
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RE the 1/4" impact:

Okay, we're having a bit of a culture clash here. I was taught never to use an impact for driving stuff in; an impact wrench is for loosening. Is it done? Yes. Often in fact. Is it the right thing to do? No. Fasteners get over torqued. Have I done it? I'll plead the 5th on that one...

Generally speaking, I'll use an air ratchet for assembly and then torque by hand. I just can't fathom a fastener so small as to use a 1/4 inch wrench to be so torqued I couldn't loosen it by hand.
I use the 1/4 for screw driving more than anything. Great for driving and not having to pre-drill most things. They will drive stainless decking screws without stripping them which is a feat in itself.

A handy thing about using the 1/4 for loosening something, you get the hammer impact action but not the BFH impact action. Not much chance of wringing a head off but still better than just trying to Magilla Gorilla something.

Oh and I use it for a lot of assembly stuff..... It is fast and I run it until it hits the first ratchet hammer hit. Then finish final torque(whether feel or torque wrench) by hand.

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