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SoK66 07-12-2013 07:36 PM

Air cleaner for the Redline/Weber?
 
About ten years ago Collins Bros sold an emissions legal air cleaner assembly for the Redline Weber carbs. Had a proper heat riser, used a paper element, etc. They don't seem to carry them any longer, anyone know of a source? I'd like to get one and toss the little POS that came with the carb.

HALOjmpr 07-12-2013 11:32 PM

Buy the adapter # 99010-457 ($26.95) and it allows you to use the stock air cleaner for your CJ and keep all your attachments intact.

It's available here!

http://www.carburetion.com/Weber/weberpartsair.asp

kovic 07-12-2013 11:37 PM

^^ is there a benefit to having the stock air cleaner on rather than the one that comes with the weber?

kov

BagusJeep 07-13-2013 02:20 AM

Huge benefits.

The Thermostatic Air Cleaner gives you cold air to the engine, not the hot stuff under the hood. On start up it gives you warm air pretty quickly.

It has a large paper element that is cheap to change and filters the air properly.

When you are in the water and mud up to your axles it will not let water into the engine

You can't say any of that about the POS chrome thing that comes from Redline. If I could find a TAC out here that fitted I would buy the adapter. In the day we changed them because we were deluded, thinking it would boost performance.

WindKnot 07-13-2013 08:23 AM

Sometimes it comes as a shock to us, but the factory engineers usually knew what they were doing. They built an air filter assembly specific to the Jeep. The engineers at Weber didn't have that luxury. They have no idea what vehicle their carburetor is going on and what kind of clearances they have under the hood or even if there is a hood.

Using the adapter allows all the other parts related to fit. Bagus is right and I'd love to find a factory breather assembly for mine.

SoK66 07-13-2013 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HALOjmpr (Post 15671490)
Buy the adapter # 99010-457 ($26.95) and it allows you to use the stock air cleaner for your CJ and keep all your attachments intact.

It's available here!

http://www.carburetion.com/Weber/weberpartsair.asp

Thanks, I'll check it out.

prismfisher 07-13-2013 09:19 AM

air cleaner
 
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I put one on my weber. Easy Peasy and worked mucho better than the crap they sent me......

kovic 07-13-2013 09:44 AM

Good thing I kept My old assembly, was so close to tossing it. Maybe I'll clean her up, get the adapter and throw her on.

kov

wellmax 07-13-2013 09:48 AM

might be easy to do if you had the original air cleaner.

but my old jeep is like what most of us get, I have a 1984 model that had been through a number of PO.
so I was lucky to have much of anything left.

so I got the std carb but some piece of junk air filter.

so when I got the weber I also order the air filter and it's worked ok for me,
advance auto has the replacement filters or can order them for around 19.
I also run a thick foam prefilter around the air filter, this makes the air filter last much longer.

like a lawn mower you can wash out, clean and lightly oil the foam pre filter

has been running good using this method for years.

kovic 07-13-2013 10:01 AM

Do you guys know if they sell the bolts required to connect the original assembly to the adapter, I believe I tossed that with the BBD.

And I found the rest of what I need here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-Cj-Lare...b9e93f&vxp=mtr

And is this the correct adapter? Seems it may have the bolt included.http://www.webercarbsdirect.com/product_p/a1000.htm
kov

keith460 07-13-2013 10:22 AM

Yes, that is the correct adapter and the hot air flex pipe off of the exhaust manifold and vinyl air intake duct.

You must raise the OEM air cleaner 1" off the valve cover because the Weber carbs sit exactly 1" higher than the Carter BBD's.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...gineHoses3.jpg

kovic 07-13-2013 10:32 AM

Ok, yea the description was saying I need to check the hood clearance before ordering, and you say the weber sits even higher? SO with the higher sitting weber, and the even higher adapter, you think i will still be clear?. And man, your air cleaner looks different than mine.

Also keith, at the very end of the air cleaner, that little greyish housing that sits on the top(trap door motor?), You have a rubber hose going to it, and that rubber hose goes to some kind of in line thing, mine was yellow, but its long gone, what is that and is it needed?

thanks

kov

SoK66 07-13-2013 04:42 PM

My next question is, what air cleaner assy would work best with my 232, adapted to a 2 bbl manifold off a 258? I got the Weber kit for the 258 so I didn't have to run the 2bbl into 1bbl adapter. Works great, btw. When I dragged the poor CJ home 11 years ago it had some old oil bath air cleaner off heaven knows what. Wasn't a CJ unit at all. So, looks like I can an ai cleaner assembly off a 258 that came stock with a Carter 2bbl, but which year would be best? Can I assume the 76 - 79 might be the ticket?

keith460 07-14-2013 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovic (Post 15672404)
Ok, yea the description was saying I need to check the hood clearance before ordering, and you say the weber sits even higher? SO with the higher sitting weber, and the even higher adapter, you think i will still be clear?. And man, your air cleaner looks different than mine.

Also keith, at the very end of the air cleaner, that little greyish housing that sits on the top(trap door motor?), You have a rubber hose going to it, and that rubber hose goes to some kind of in line thing, mine was yellow, but its long gone, what is that and is it needed?

thanks

kov

The air cleaner is only different design if you have power brakes. Power brake booster interferes with the manual brake type air cleaner.

You may be referring to the Delay Vacuum Valve that is yellow/white in color. It slowly activates the vacuum motor on top to gently open and close the flap. There is also a gray/white one for the other vacuum motor.

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...EngineBay2.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...CSystem004.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o...CSystem001.jpg

JustDandee 07-14-2013 08:55 AM

I would like to pop in on a quick question on the OEM housing- Keith maybe you can answer? Does the housing you have on the 6 cyl -the same as the one used on the 4 cyl? It looks very, very similar to my 83' that I have on the 2.5. If I could make mine look like yours I think I could pass visual at the emission station with the weber. The only part I would need to know is what is the diameter of oem tube going to the carb. If height is an issue I could just trim the down tube length to compensate for the elevation change.

Thanks
Dan


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