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Unread 08-25-2015, 07:46 AM   #1
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AHHHH! Thought I had this... Differential Guys, Help!

This is my 2nd time doing this, changing ring and pinion gears. Both axles are/were AMC20s, both were 2.73 to xxx. This one is going to 4.56, and I am installing a Lincoln Locker.

What are these clutch-pak looking thingys!? I don't remember them when I did the 5!

Do they go back in with the Powertrax??

Does it matter that I am missing a retainer clip from one pak?

Side specific???

Is this LSD???

Here's where I am...


As they came out of the carrier...


Missing retainer clip from one side...


THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!



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Unread 08-25-2015, 07:50 AM   #2
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OEM LSD (track loc)... The clip retainer is a mandatory for LSD in order to do is job...

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Unread 08-25-2015, 09:22 AM   #3
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OEM LSD (track loc)... The clip retainer is a mandatory for LSD in order to do is job...

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Merci, Gilles. I'm thinking they would NOT be reinstalled with a locker??
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Unread 08-25-2015, 09:25 AM   #4
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Will the powertrax fit in a a LSD housing? an open AMC 20 housing is a little different...

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Will the powertrax fit in a a LSD housing? an open AMC 20 housing is a little different...

Danged if I KNOW John?? I went back and looked at my build where I changed out the gears in Clay's 5. The carrier is MUCH different. Seems like if I don't put the clutch paks back in then the locker will flop side to side inside the carrier.

The locker (same type of locker) in Clay's 5 surely causes excessive tire wear, which I don't like, but also surely gives me the traction I need in the muddy deer woods.

I will GLADLY acquiesce to the advice of you Veterans.

edit* Going back and looking at the pic you posted. I see what you mean. I have not tried to fit it inside yet.
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Might want to check out this thread before you go further...

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/tr...stion-3349169/
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Will the powertrax fit in a a LSD housing? an open AMC 20 housing is a little different...

I'm agree with John !

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Wish I had a picture of Calvin with a black cloud over his head...

Why can't anything in my life just be straight up?

Thank you, John, for the link. I am a bit embarrassed that you have this thread so close to mine. I didn't search before asking my question. Apologies to All...

Just for the game, I am bench installing the locker to "see" what it looks like. The Powertrax install manual makes reference to open diffs. The link included in John's reply is for a Powertrax TL carrier, for ~$500. Which is cool. But I don't have it, even if I pimp myself!

Everything is sitting on the table while wifey is gone. Back in a bit...
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Unread 08-25-2015, 10:51 AM   #9
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The PowerTrax is the only lunchbox locker I know of that will fit in the trac lock case and it is stupid expensive at over $500. A full case bulletproof Detroit is only $600ish. PowerTrax can be found in the link below.

http://www.quadratec.com/products/16104_101.htm
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The PowerTrax is the only lunchbox locker I know of that will fit in the trac lock case and it is stupid expensive at over $500. A full case bulletproof Detroit is only $600ish. PowerTrax can be found in the link below.

http://www.quadratec.com/products/16104_101.htm
Yeah... thanks, Shaun. I was just coming back to say you CAN easily install a non-TL Lincoln locker in a Trac-Loc carrier, but maybe 3/4" of gap in the middle. So it wouldn't work even if it was done completely by accident.

Guess I am ordering a clutch kit and running it with 4.56s. Unless someone has an open carrier laying around...??

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Just as a point of interest...
Q-tec had the clutch pak for $69, while Morris has it for $96. Amazon for just over $100. None of these quotes include shipping. Clutches ordered.
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I'll get a round tuit with putting my 4.11 gears on my trackloc someday.
I know the clutches were good, just need some friction modifier poured in.


Kids keep breaking their cars somehow. Ever try to find an engine for a Mitsubishi Lancer without having it shipped cross country?
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Try this site to find an engine if you haven't already.

http://www.car-part.com/index.htm
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I'll get a round tuit with putting my 4.11 gears on my trackloc someday.
I know the clutches were good, just need some friction modifier poured in.


Kids keep breaking their cars somehow. Ever try to find an engine for a Mitsubishi Lancer without having it shipped cross country?
I'll make you a deal on a 258... all you gotta do is pick it up!

I seriously know what it means to finance kids!!


E-mail from Q-tec says BACKORDERED.

WhynthehelldidnttheysaythatwhenIordered???? First such experience I have had with Q-tec. Morris had one set left for $96, but *WAIT*... they price-match. Get it for $69 from Morris, plus $16 S/H, plus sales tax... $90! What's the point...

Any friction modifier you guys particularly like? Yukon Gear has a YT thread that says to soak clutches overnight in FM before assembly. Any comments of further advice??
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Skerr,
I believe I have a couple of amc 20 open carriers out in my shop. I know one is for the 2.73 ratio. The other I am not sure of. If you interested give me a part number (I believe there are numbers stamped in the carrier that can be referenced to tell what ratio it is good for) and I will go attempt to dig it out.
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