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Unread 05-14-2009, 07:08 AM   #1
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Advice for MUD build

Hey guys, new fella from Alabama here, love the forum. I'm looking for some advice on helping my CJ get through the mud (better than it does). I recently joined a hunting club with lots of flat, swampy, slippery frog holes. It's not terribly deep mud but we do have the occasional flood that leaves 2foot of water on top of everything. Fortunately, there are plenty of trees to grab a hold of.

What I've got: 81CJ7 (had her since '86), 258 built up a bit, widetrack axles 3:31 gears, 30 open up front and 20 with traclok (or no-lok) in the rear. 3" springs and 33" A/T tires, 176 4sp tranny and 300tcase. I don't want to build a mud-bogger, but I'm sure my jeep has got to be better than a 4wheeler. And I like to be able to drive it to the hunting club (60miles).

So...opinions on how you would take her to the next level? Keep in mind the stimulus package hasn't stimulated me yet so I'm poor-boying everything...just pretend I had 2500-3k to spend (as my wife laughs in the background). I honestly don't want to go much bigger than 33" tires. Lockers? LimSlips? Tires? Any other advice? Thanks.

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Unread 05-14-2009, 07:15 AM   #2
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how about an aussie locker in the front and some M/T tires. that should greatly enhance your traction offroad without suffereing driveability. $250 for the locker up to $1K for the tires.
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Unread 05-14-2009, 08:12 AM   #3
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Lockers ( i agree on the aussies, ive had several and loved them)
Superswampers....Maybe some TSL radials or truxus tires?
A GOOD winch (even if you cant make it you can pull yourself though
and of course a winch bumper to put it on along with a good rear bumper so you have good recovery points.

thats about all i can think of unless you want to go to bigger tires.
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Unread 05-14-2009, 08:22 AM   #4
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If you're doing mud, boggers are the way to go.
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Unread 05-14-2009, 08:23 AM   #5
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Mini spool in the rear 100bucks, Twin stick the T-case and a mini spool up front for a hunt buggy, if not an Aussie up front. Go w/the skinny tire (BFG M/T-R) to get down and dig. 3:31 is a good set up and I use that set up. Tera-low kit may help cause gearing is what it's all about.
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Unread 05-14-2009, 09:05 AM   #6
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A/T tires,
That's like bringing knife to a gun fight I think you already know what your first/main upgrade is
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Unread 05-14-2009, 09:18 AM   #7
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Ive seen several people try to run a mini spool in the rear end of a vehicle on the street and it never ends well....Last one i seen only made it a month before it totally destroyed the rear end. And it was installed correctly. When they write "only for dirt track use" on the box i guess they mean it.....

Oh and if you are going to drive it 60 miles then wheel it, i would not buy boggers....I have them, they are AWESOME in the mud but they melt off when driving on the road, they dont balance at all and they are VERY loud (we put them on a soft top TJ and you couldnt even talk to the passenger they were so loud)
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Unread 05-14-2009, 09:20 AM   #8
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Some of this depends upon whether you're driving alone or in groups (or at least on a well-traveled road). A winch will get you out of the hole you're in, but won't solve the underlying problem of not being able to get through the mud. I'd seriously consider one if I were driving alone along fairly deserted tracks, but not worry about one so much if I was in a group or could count on somebody coming by (in something larger than a 4-wheeler) within half an hour of my getting stuck. Mud tires will be your best upgrade. Most mud terrain tires will be a good upgrade over A/Ts. TSLs would be much better, and Boggers best yet. It all depends upon how much tolerance you have for the reduction in street performance. A locker in conjunction with any of these tires will make them work much better. Personally, I'd do tires first, a locker (or two) second, and a winch as a Christmas present in the future.
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Unread 05-14-2009, 09:42 AM   #9
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Mud tires should be your first upgrade. Even with open diffs, I've been able to get through more mud with my BFG MTs than my buddies with limited slips and ATs. If it were me, tires first, then lockers if needed.
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Unread 05-14-2009, 10:10 AM   #10
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All good stuff. I do have the twin shifter on my 300 and tires are absolutely on the upgrade list. I like the skinny tire idea, been looking at the narrow SS 34x9.50 from interco. I've got a 9k Pierce winch also.
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Unread 05-14-2009, 02:37 PM   #11
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You will need a Winch or a come along.... An warn winch cost somthing like $800.
I bought a 2 ton come along a Lowes for 50 bucks, and i have used it successfully to free myself from mud at least 20 times.
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HF Winch-$299.00 bucks w/mounting plate and pulls SLOW all day.
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Unread 05-14-2009, 08:11 PM   #13
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All good stuff. I do have the twin shifter on my 300 and tires are absolutely on the upgrade list. I like the skinny tire idea, been looking at the narrow SS 34x9.50 from interco. I've got a 9k Pierce winch also.
Don't mean to start the fight but I've always had better luck with my 33-12.50's for the float factor. A jeep is generally light enough you don't have to find the bottom in the goo.
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Agreed, I run 33 12.5's on my other Jeep & 10.5's on Peaches jeep. I can really tell a difference on flotation. some times it's good/bad, depending on the terrain U want. No problem here, it just feels good to hit the bottom sometimes
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Unread 05-14-2009, 08:50 PM   #15
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I run 33x1250 Dayton timberlines M/T. Work great and only about $150 each. They fold up good on the road. Had a set of them on my old F150. got 40,000 out of them.
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