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Unread 06-20-2011, 01:55 PM   #61
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Great work! I once saw a CJ7 in Paris November 09 and couldnt' take a picture quick enough What color are you going to paint the exterior?

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Unread 06-20-2011, 02:13 PM   #62
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Great work! I once saw a CJ7 in Paris November 09 and couldnt' take a picture quick enough What color are you going to paint the exterior?
Olympic white with '86 grey stickers

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Unread 06-20-2011, 04:38 PM   #63
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Great! Looking forward to seeing more pics
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Unread 07-16-2011, 12:15 PM   #64
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Interesting thread...any updates?
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Unread 07-16-2011, 12:52 PM   #65
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wow, this is a very cool thread.
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Unread 07-16-2011, 05:58 PM   #66
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Gilles,

Fantastic job. You are going to have a very nice and unique Cj. BTW, I think your English is pretty good, certainly 100% better than my French. At least I can understand your English..lol

I'm looking forward to some more updates.

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Unread 07-17-2011, 03:20 AM   #67
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Thanks guys for all your replies!


By popular demand ...

It's Tub time! ... going out the body shop... (the body has remained 16 months without coverage to explain the "light" flower of rust: Thank you my windy country (Mistral) as in other regions ... Rust had already attacked ... )



The two side of the windshield were taken back ...

There's one in detail ...



All the imperfections of the plate were recovered ... so no need to putty
The body worker has some issues on the tailgate, but he did it ( very well): very thanks for his patience ... and meticulous



Some details of the corrections ...







And then towards the passivation ... and the first NaOH bath



Come on ... it will not hurt ...



glug glug glug ... the NaOH bath ...



and 24 hours later and 2 hours in a bath of gluconate (passivation) of this emerges ... like new ... ... it is rinsed and air dried
compressed at first ...



Tada ...



There she goes!




Are you sure it is the same Tub ?



Hmm ... it looks like ...

JEEP not JOOP




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Unread 07-17-2011, 03:26 AM   #68
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a rear view ...



A view from below



The case has gone to the body shop and remained in an oven 12 hours (paint booth heater to remove the last remnants of moisture)



And for your dreams ... here it is the only piece of steel that have been replaced (because EVERTHING ELSE was OK):


The 2 windshields brackets , holder of the sport bar (passenger side) and removing a hole made during installation (doubtful) to side-step driver's side by the PO ...




And THAT's ALL !!!!!

and ... Primer here we are ... !!

Some pics of the primer painting after the roll over...













Niiiice !

And then the tub is protected and waiting for seam sealant (like Keith460) , final painting and anti gravel shield ...



She's waiting about the other metal pieces body work... (The Olympic White (AMC 9B code) color will be painted in one time (3 or 4 layers))

And I'm changing... my mind ... I keep the '82 grey stickers instead of the '86... to stay close as possible OEM...

I know ... It's NOT the OEM Color... But I think it's NOT very important (since I stay in AMC colors) and you will forgive me

So...to be continued...

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Unread 07-17-2011, 07:52 AM   #69
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Beautiful work...Love the attention to detail! Was that a "galvanizing" process when you dipped the tub in the gluconate?
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Unread 07-17-2011, 07:59 AM   #70
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That's the latin driving... believe it or not: It's getting worse when you go down to the south... Marseille(FRANCE), Rome(ITALY), and so on...

Try to drive at Champs elysées on the Arc de Triomphe roundabout (with 10 lanes)

HERE


Piece of cake


about the cars damages you haven't see the GOOD places : French Peoples LOVE cars and take care of it... but mainly they use a special car to drive in Paris... (I used to do that when I lived in Paris)


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WOW, Gilles... top notch work. I admire the attention to detail and the thoroughness of your restoration. I did not catch your thread from the beginning, but it gave me a nice read this morning. I am envious of the Sodium Hydroxide baths, and I wish that kind of service was available around here.

What are you going to do with the wheels??

Note* French garages are very similar to American garages!! I especially enjoy reading builds from other countries, for the cultural aspect... because I have none!

The video of the traffice is amazing! I cannot think of any words to describe the total astonishment I had while viewing with my kids. If you can drive in that, especially a motorcycle, then you can drive anywhere!

I hope your day is blessed, Brother. I'll be watching.
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Unread 07-17-2011, 08:08 AM   #71
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WOW, Gilles... top notch work. I admire the attention to detail and the thoroughness of your restoration. I did not catch your thread from the beginning, but it gave me a nice read this morning. I am envious of the Sodium Hydroxide baths, and I wish that kind of service was available around here.

What are you going to do with the wheels??

Note* French garages are very similar to American garages!! I especially enjoy reading builds from other countries, for the cultural aspect... because I have none!

The video of the traffice is amazing! I cannot think of any words to describe the total astonishment I had while viewing with my kids. If you can drive in that, especially a motorcycle, then you can drive anywhere!

I hope your day is blessed, Brother. I'll be watching.
X2 on everything Scott just wrote! This is an amazing build!!
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Unread 07-17-2011, 12:46 PM   #72
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WOW, Gilles... top notch work. I admire the attention to detail and the thoroughness of your restoration. I did not catch your thread from the beginning, but it gave me a nice read this morning. I am envious of the Sodium Hydroxide baths, and I wish that kind of service was available around here.

What are you going to do with the wheels??

Note* French garages are very similar to American garages!! I especially enjoy reading builds from other countries, for the cultural aspect... because I have none!

The video of the traffice is amazing! I cannot think of any words to describe the total astonishment I had while viewing with my kids. If you can drive in that, especially a motorcycle, then you can drive anywhere!

I hope your day is blessed, Brother. I'll be watching.
Thanks guys for your congrats!!!


About the chrome wheels: well, there is NO bussiness which do this in FRANCE...

I'm now looking on neighbor country...

Chromate is easy (done in 7 baths) ... but for rims is quite difficult: it need more Amps (~1000) and another anode for a good work... is due to the Faraday effect...
It's need too a litte more work for polishing...

I'm mad: It's seems quite easy to find this kind of bussiness in USA!!

Second way is to buy 5 used OEM steel rims and powder coated them in white... (with the black stripe pinstripping, of course, like Keith460 one)

...Meanwhile I find a solution for the chrome... may be making it in my own... but... with the hexavalent chrome rules it's very hard and dangerous...

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Is it not possible to scuff the existing chrome wheels, and then have them powder-coated white?? I would think so. Maybe sand blast them. I did mine and painted them with implement paint, and they are holding up very well. No peeling or rust. Just an idea maybe worth exploring...
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Unread 07-18-2011, 03:13 AM   #74
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Is it not possible to scuff the existing chrome wheels, and then have them powder-coated white?? I would think so. Maybe sand blast them. I did mine and painted them with implement paint, and they are holding up very well. No peeling or rust. Just an idea maybe worth exploring...
Of course I can do this...

But the chrome process starts with a very "light" peening... instead of the powder coated process who starts usually with heavy peening... so if I do this it will quite difficult to go back... or with LOONG time of polishing...


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Beautiful work...Love the attention to detail! Was that a "galvanizing" process when you dipped the tub in the gluconate?
Sorry for the late answer...

Absolutely NOT: it's a chemical reaction which stops for a time ~72H-1 Week the rust... Time to set the primer...

The 1st NaOH bath remove the rust already set...

Galvanisation would be great... this electrolytic reaction protect permanently the item... But it's usually done at factory ... and It's very expensive for this dimension (tub)

But the top protection is the fusion zinc bath... ! But you can't do this on the tub... due to the extreme heat that will distord permanently the metal sheet of the tub...
But it's GREAT on the frame!!! I would like do this on my frame... but the bussiness who do this in my area work like pigs!!!!
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Unread 10-11-2011, 05:52 AM   #75
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Hello ! Back in detail on the first batch of chrome ...

here are the parts before




and yes, I dared the grille ...



and here the return ...



Bling Bling eh ??...

Here are the details ...

the speedometer ...



details ...



The rods of the door trim ..



One of bumperettes ...





and ... the interior is dull ... as originally ...



The bezel (in Zamak) headlights ...



details ...



and finally the grille ...



details ...





mirror effect...



But everything is not right... unfortunately ...

During the polishing stage (after the copper bath), the chromers had an accident (very rare two times during his career of 15 years)

In trying to make a mirror effect in the bars of the grid (when they were stripping Gross originally) the grid was snatched in the polishing and
went on to shatter the protective cover of the polisher ...


-> I just see the extent of damage ...

The grill was bent in two horizontally I arrived after a first straightening we can see the location of the fold ...




The chromers went to see a "old car" bodyshop specialist Bugatti, Panhard, and so on...

and here is the result ...



there are some irregularities ... is acceptable ... but not perfect ... (According to me AND the chromers)



and finally ... I've REALLY bad luck ...

One of the grille lights (in Zamak) was (badly) repaired and (mis) chromated... So when chemical stripping, repair has buggered off ...

(I believe it since , I've seen some lights imperfection before chrome in this area)

and imperfections have reappeared ... chromers / body shop man says is unrecoverable





And so ... for all these reasons ... the chromer not pay me anything ... I am sick...

It is not catastrophic ... but I'll have to put me on the hunt of another OEM grille and one OEM bezel headlight ...

it's a PITA... in my country is quite impossible to find those items


Sincerely,

Gilles
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