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post #1 of 9 Old 10-07-2006, 12:43 PM Thread Starter
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77 Cj5 Teardown Update, Help!!!

Ok y'all, was hoping I would get the tub off today, but things didn't work out just as I had planned. I got everything disconnected from the firewall, got the clutch linkage disconected and so on. I went to pull the body bolts and was hoping since there was minimal rust they would come free, Yeah Right!!!!
What a Stupid design to have an open channel, with captive nuts, for all the dirt and moisture to collect and rot stuff!!! I have just tried the drivers side so far, but 1 just broke, 1 came out, yeah!!, the other two just spin. I think I can get a swazal in there and just cut thru the bushing and straight thru the nut, but then what? If I cut the nuts off how do I remount the body? Is there a way to do it without having to weld?

Also I learned a huge lesson, I crawled underneath and thought I would take off the huge skid plate under the transfer case. Well guess what, that thing ain't just a skid plate, the transfer case is mounted to it!!! Of course I didn't find this out until I pulled the last bolt out on one side and the thing dropped about 3". It was a real pain to get everything to line back up too, about 2 hours worth. Anyway another stupid design. I would sure appreciate any help y'all can give me
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post #2 of 9 Old 10-07-2006, 12:51 PM
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Suprise!! Good thing you didn't hurt yourself. It actually mounts to the tranny but either case that sucker is heavy.

I wuld say to cut the bolts and work on the nuts when you can lay the tub on its side. But lets wait for other opinins. Some take a hole saw and cut through the tub to replave the nuts and plug it up later.


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Some take a hole saw and cut through the tub to replave the nuts and plug it up later.
That is probably how I would approach it.. and I'd weld the nuts in place too.

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The one in the front corner I don't think you can get to with a hole saw? If the channel is in good shape I think I can use a reg nut and bolt as I can reach it with a wrench from the end of the channel, maybe I will use the hole saw idea for the mounts in the middle. Does anybody know if Lowes sells hole saws for metal? All I have seen are for wood. I need to go get some sawzal blades and thought I would pick one up.
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post #5 of 9 Old 10-07-2006, 05:48 PM
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I don't think there is anyway around it without a welder. I just did all my body mounts and all the bolts broke or nut spun. A cut-off wheel will do the trick, make 3 cuts and bend the panel back and weld it back on. I had to do both front (just fwd of the seat), both rear (at the tailgate), and the one under the grill.
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Hey, I like the idea of cutting three cuts and making sort of a door, this would allow me to get to the nuts now and later, then just bend them back down and have somebody weld them up. Thanks for the great idea. Just thinking as I type, can you use this method to get the one all the way up front?
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What I have done in the past is if the bolt breaks or the nut spins is to cut them off at the bolt with a sawzal. It is much easier to take the tub off and then get to the ones that didn't come free. If I were you, I would do it this way, remove the tub, set it on its side or upside down and get everything set for someone to come in and weld everything at once, it will lower your costs and you can plan around it. It will also save you time. Good luck.

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Thanks Bard,
I went and bought some new sawzal blades today.
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A cut-off wheel will do the trick, make 3 cuts and bend the panel back and weld it back on.
That's exactly how I handled mine.

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