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Unread 07-25-2013, 05:31 PM   #16
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Order steel shims.
The alloy(zinc)'pounds' out over time.
You will need longer spring center bolts also.
You can often find the steel shims where heavy duty(semi's)trucks are serviced/repaired.
What was your caster set at?
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Unread 07-25-2013, 06:40 PM   #17
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Order steel shims.
The alloy(zinc)'pounds' out over time.
You will need longer spring center bolts also.
You can often find the steel shims where heavy duty(semi's)trucks are serviced/repaired.
What was your caster set at?
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Or cut and rotate the perches and get rid of the shims completely.
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Unread 07-25-2013, 07:28 PM   #18
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Kinda hard to cut the passenger side perch on a front axle.
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Unread 07-25-2013, 09:49 PM   #19
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Originally the caster was 2.6 degrees. I checked the Toe-in tonight and it was 1/2" inch. Waiting on Shims to increase the caster to 7 degrees. Will bring the toe-in down to 1/8 to 1/4 when I do the new shims.
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Unread 07-25-2013, 10:52 PM   #20
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Kinda hard to cut the passenger side perch on a front axle.
I had no trouble doing mine.
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Unread 07-25-2013, 10:56 PM   #21
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Its not cast into the center section. The spring perch is welded on.
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Unread 07-26-2013, 02:45 AM   #22
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A few swipes with a cutoff Wheel, a few whacks with a BFH, and they pop right off. Its surprising how little weld there is holding them on.

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Unread 07-26-2013, 09:32 AM   #23
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Originally the caster was 2.6 degrees. I checked the Toe-in tonight and it was 1/2" inch. Waiting on Shims to increase the caster to 7 degrees. Will bring the toe-in down to 1/8 to 1/4 when I do the new shims.
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Thanks for all of the ideas. It steered correctly until I lifted it. I will check the Toe-in tonight. At Goodyear it read .125" ( I was in the shop when they did it). Yes the large end of the shim is to the front. I just ordered another shim that should increase it to 7 degrees. I will report back when I get the shims in (should get them next Tuesday).
You just contradicted yourself here.
Are you sure you know the correct way to measure toe-in??
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Unread 07-26-2013, 10:06 AM   #24
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Its not cast into the center section. The spring perch is welded on.
Apparently it's been too long since I messed with a Dana 30. I know that they are part of the casting on Dana 44s and Dana 60s which is all that I have worked with the last few years. I will shut up now about D30s!
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Unread 07-28-2013, 01:25 PM   #25
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Yes, I know how to check the Toe-in. I have taken the leaf springs loose a couple of times adding and removing the shims. Also I looked at the Goodyear print out closer and they set the Toe-in at 1degree not .125". I should get my 4 degree shims by Tuesday. I will report back once I get them installed.
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Unread 07-28-2013, 05:08 PM   #26
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What kind of lift do you have. I put a 4" lift on mine and cant tell any difference in how it drives. It had a 2.5" on it before. I would think if you stayed with a cj spring lifted or not the caster should be close to spec.
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Unread 07-28-2013, 05:10 PM   #27
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I have never heard of TE given in degrees. Only fraction of an inch or decimal equivalent
Only camber and caster are shown in degrees.
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Unread 07-28-2013, 05:59 PM   #28
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What kind of lift do you have. I put a 4" lift on mine and cant tell any difference in how it drives. It had a 2.5" on it before. I would think if you stayed with a cj spring lifted or not the caster should be close to spec.
Many 4" lifts don't use the oem shackles. Taller shackles change the caster.
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Unread 07-29-2013, 02:31 AM   #29
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I have never heard of TE given in degrees. Only fraction of an inch or decimal equivalent
Only camber and caster are shown in degrees.
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The few alignment machines I've used have all given toe as an angle in degrees. They actually gave all of them in degrees - camber, caster, and toe, along with thrust angle and all the others... They have all been Hunter brand machines.
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Unread 07-29-2013, 08:23 AM   #30
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The few alignment machines I've used have all given toe as an angle in degrees. They actually gave all of them in degrees - camber, caster, and toe, along with thrust angle and all the others... They have all been Hunter brand machines.
THX, for the info
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