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Unread 04-04-2013, 10:47 PM   #1
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The 304 lives!

After several weeks of scratching my head, working for awhile, ordering parts, and working some more.....I finally managed to get this old engine to make some noise!

I will say though, I see now why so many people pull these AMC engines for Chevy or Ford or just something else. It is IMPOSSIBLE to find parts locally for these things!

Over the next couple weeks I'll get the cooling system buttoned up and I'll be able to run it for its first long-term operating temp test. I'm still holding my breath...

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Unread 04-04-2013, 10:55 PM   #2
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I always have to tell the parts counter guys to look up the engine in a wagoneer. The don't even list my 83 to have a v8 in the books.
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Unread 04-04-2013, 11:01 PM   #3
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I guess I've gotten spoiled. All the cars I've owned and built had a fairly large aftermarket, except for my Maxima I used to race. Ebay has been my friend!
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Unread 04-05-2013, 02:20 AM   #4
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I've never had a problem getting parts. But then again, I know the cross reference for parts for other motors, years, models, etc that will also work.
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Unread 09-19-2013, 08:57 AM   #5
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I thought I'd bring this thread back instead of making a new one....

I've continued getting my Jeep back in shape. I actually drove it down the street last weekend! I got the brakes working thanks to the guys at Inline Tube. They are definitely the guys I would recommend for brake lines! And for $150, you can't beat it!

At any rate, I have a couple questions for you guys that have done floor repair before. My floor is pretty trashed. The passenger side floor pans and the floor supports are damn near rusted through.
My question is this:

(1) a one-piece replacement floor from Omix for a CJ5 #12007.05, seems to be the easiest way to fix it. They also run about $550 shipped. I noticed the other day that that Omix makes the same panel for a CJ7 #12007.06 that I can get for less than $400 shipped. I know a CJ7 panel will be longer, but can I just trim the extra off and use it??

(2) can the floor be replaced in one piece with the tub mounted on the frame? I don't really have a place to store frame and body separately....for the time being I'm doing this work in my driveway

Any advice would be awesome!
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Unread 09-22-2013, 05:25 PM   #6
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I always have to tell the parts counter guys to look up the engine in a wagoneer. The don't even list my 83 to have a v8 in the books.

83 CJ7 was not offered with a v8 from the factory. Tell them it is a 1980 and they should be able to find the parts.
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Unread 09-22-2013, 07:41 PM   #7
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I would check out these folks and see what they offer compared to the Omix products: Classic Enterprises
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Unread 09-23-2013, 10:24 AM   #8
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I have heard alot of back and forth about Omix vs. Classic body panels.....I've had some trouble with them myself. I wish the guys at Classic would put together a complete floor pan!

While the Omix pan may not be "pretty" it should work. My jeep not only needs the floor pans, but also the transverse and toeboard supports. I can get all of these through Classic, but I'd rather have one piece to weld in as opposed to 6 or 7.

Any thoughts on trimming a CJ7 pan for my 5? If I can trim 6-7" off of a CJ7 pan and save myself $150, I'll do that alllll day long!
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Unread 09-24-2013, 09:44 AM   #9
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Since I guess I'll call this my "build thread" I thought I'd show you guys some pics of the work so far

I tried to post my pics here to explain them, but no luck....I think its self-explanatory though
jeep2.jpg   jeep3.jpg   jeeppickup.jpg   whenigotithome.jpg   jeepengineteardown.jpg  

jeepenginewiring.jpg   jeepenginewiring2.jpg   jeepenginecomplete.jpg  
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Unread 09-25-2013, 11:17 PM   #10
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83 CJ7 was not offered with a v8 from the factory. Tell them it is a 1980 and they should be able to find the parts.
Beat me to it... Got to be swapped in, 82 was last of the V8 years.... it's sad, I know... one reason I don't have any newer "wranglers"
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Unread 09-25-2013, 11:24 PM   #11
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It is sad...I've never driven a 258 CJ, but the 4.0 TJs are pretty tough.

On the other hand, you couldn't give me a 3.8 JK. Talk about a dog!
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Unread 09-25-2013, 11:49 PM   #12
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I'd be game for a 4 door JK if they offered the rubicon in a hemi, even a smaller one would do. But that's why keep my CJ's and went with a power wagon... I absolutely love my 3/4 ton version of a rubicon truck!
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Unread 09-26-2013, 12:11 AM   #13
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Those new Power Wagons are awesome machines!

I'll never forget working on a 2 door JK Rubicon with a supercharger...it was like driving a hot-rodded shoebox on stilts!
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Unread 09-26-2013, 08:06 AM   #14
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(1) a one-piece replacement floor from Omix for a CJ5 #12007.05, seems to be the easiest way to fix it. They also run about $550 shipped. I noticed the other day that that Omix makes the same panel for a CJ7 #12007.06 that I can get for less than $400 shipped. I know a CJ7 panel will be longer, but can I just trim the extra off and use it??

(2) can the floor be replaced in one piece with the tub mounted on the frame? I don't really have a place to store frame and body separately....for the time being I'm doing this work in my driveway

Any advice would be awesome!
1. should fit with some trimming but I think some of the body mount locations are different.

2. You can do it on the frame just be sure to support the rest of the body when you pull the mounts and cut the panels out. 2x4s will work just be careful when welding.

I am doing a rebuild right now but I have the room to pull it all apart. The tub is my next major project. Lots of rust for being a Jeep in southern CA. For my body work I got a 12ft 18 gauge sheet mild steal to use. I don't really care about the floor ridges as it will be coated in bedliner with the grit added.
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Unread 09-26-2013, 08:52 AM   #15
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I thought I'd bring this thread back instead of making a new one....

I've continued getting my Jeep back in shape. I actually drove it down the street last weekend! I got the brakes working thanks to the guys at Inline Tube. They are definitely the guys I would recommend for brake lines! And for $150, you can't beat it!

At any rate, I have a couple questions for you guys that have done floor repair before. My floor is pretty trashed. The passenger side floor pans and the floor supports are damn near rusted through.
My question is this:

(1) a one-piece replacement floor from Omix for a CJ5 #12007.05, seems to be the easiest way to fix it. They also run about $550 shipped. I noticed the other day that that Omix makes the same panel for a CJ7 #12007.06 that I can get for less than $400 shipped. I know a CJ7 panel will be longer, but can I just trim the extra off and use it??

(2) can the floor be replaced in one piece with the tub mounted on the frame? I don't really have a place to store frame and body separately....for the time being I'm doing this work in my driveway

Any advice would be awesome!
I personally just went and cut up a sheet of metal and made my own floor pan replacements it was easy just get some tin snips and cardboard cut the cardboard to fit the whole cancer area and then trace that on the metal and cut it out then trace it on your floor then cut the floor out drop in and reweld
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