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Unread 08-17-2010, 06:47 PM   #16
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Yea I am going to stick with the mechanical clutch for now as well. I spoke with a guy at Novak and he said to look for a bell from a mid 70s or earlier truck that has mechanical clutch linkage, since my CJ like yours, has the mechanical clutch. He also said I should be able to use the Ford fork for the bell, and use the flywheel off the '88 302 motor as well. Did you end up using the Jeep T/O bearing and which pressure plate did you go with? thanks

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Unread 08-17-2010, 07:14 PM   #17
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pressure plate should be from a 80 f-150 302 11'' clutch
disc should be from a 84 GMC 1500 305 motor 11'' clutch 1 1/8 10 spline

I used the jeep throw out bearing, because it needs to fit on the input shaft

those are the appliccations i used, there are others to go with a 10'' clutch
from autozone you can get the disc and the plate for less than 60$$
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Unread 08-17-2010, 07:31 PM   #18
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Petey, this is great info, because I want to start shopping and gathering all the parts before I yank the 258 out. Do you happen to have an application on the Ford bellhousing and fork as well? thanks
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Unread 08-17-2010, 08:09 PM   #19
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mine is from an 83 f-150 with a 300 I-6 and a manual tranny.
the 300 is the same bolt pattern as the 302 and 351w.

i think this is one but the seller has an error is it fits the 302 it wont fit a 351c
Ford Truck Bellhousing 240 300 302 351W 351C F100 F150: eBay Motors (item 320571696735 end time Sep-04-10 17:51:51 PDT)

i am working on my second ford into CJ swap the second is a whole lot easier than the first. I am also doing the stealth HEI because i had the parts. what are you going to do about exhaust manifolds/headers? are you going to try to keep the factory drive shafts?
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Yea I am going to stick with the mechanical clutch for now as well. I spoke with a guy at Novak and he said to look for a bell from a mid 70s or earlier truck that has mechanical clutch linkage, since my CJ like yours, has the mechanical clutch. He also said I should be able to use the Ford fork for the bell, and use the flywheel off the '88 302 motor as well. Did you end up using the Jeep T/O bearing and which pressure plate did you go with? thanks
Start here for the pilot bearing (Speedwaymotors.com part #91025805) and the next post down for the T/O bearing. CJ T/O worked for me.
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Here's the ford # for the bell I'm using C5TA-6394-A.

You can pick up a clutch fork from Jeff's Bronco Graveyard for pretty cheap which I'll picking up my next one. Part # 21208 for the 70 ish.

I had the fly wheel on and off several times. I bought a new set of bolts from Autozone and would have worked if installed once. Tuned out they were a tad to short. When torquing them down to something like 220 ft/lbs I started to strip one out. Just not enough threads on the bolt. Went down to the Ace hardware store and picked up some allen head bolts 1/2" longer. Also put some teflon tape on the treads first.

For the clutch I picked up a mid 80's truck pressure plate and disc which are 11". The CJ disc is 10 1/2", so you could use the CJ disc with the ford press plate. I could not find the ford press plate and GM disc combination. The ford disc has a 1 1/16" input dia vs. the CJ 1 1/8". So, I took the ford disc and every so patiently filed each spline down on both sides until it fit the trans input shaft. About 2 hours later. It's been holding up so far.
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Unread 08-18-2010, 12:22 PM   #21
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Hey guys here's another source for Ford parts that might come in handy for those of us swapping Ford engines in our Jeeps. Toms Bronco Parts - 1966-77 Early Ford Bronco Parts and Accessories for Classic Broncos - New, Used and Rebuilt

They had some of what I've been needing.
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Unread 08-18-2010, 07:57 PM   #22
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what are you going to do about exhaust manifolds/headers? are you going to try to keep the factory drive shafts?
I am most likely going with some long tubes to meet up with a pair of 2.5" either Flowmaster American Thunder mufflers or 40 series. Yes I will be keeping the factory drive shafts if I can. Did you guys need to shorten them at all? Thanks Havasu for those part numbers and info..you guys are really helping me out a lot with this Did you end up using your Mustang flywheel? The Mustang one I have uses a 10.5" clutch disc..should I look for a flywheel that accepts the 11" clutch disc? Also with the starter..can I use the Mustang starter?

Also can you guys confirm that this looks like the right bell/fork combo I can use? It appears the same as the ones on Bronco Graveyard's site (part#21208 & 11030) Thanks
http://www.tomsbroncoparts.net/product.php?id=20

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Unread 08-19-2010, 04:51 AM   #23
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When I changed mine over, I stayed with the T176 tranny. With that tranny, I used a Jeep disc with a Ford pressure plate that goes with your engine application. I later changed out the T176 with a NP435 Ford tran. All my parts are from late 70-early80's applications. The starter escapes me at the moment. The last time I replaced it, we just cross-referenced the part number on the old starter to get the new one. If I remember correctly, I did not have to shorten the driveshaft with the initial swap, but later had it shortened when I installed the NP435.

Hope this helps, and good luck with the swap. I think you'll love it!
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Unread 08-19-2010, 05:07 AM   #24
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I did pretty much like Jeremy above, 331 SBF with T176 and D300....
Very nice combination....
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Unread 08-19-2010, 05:35 AM   #25
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Hey Calvin, do you have a front-on shot of that bellcrank and rod setup? Love that blue, and man, those heads sure are purdy!!!
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Thanks... I am not for sure if this is what you are looking for or not.. I used the fork from the mid 80's truck and cut off the end. Then welded the end from the Mustang T-5. This is because I used the clutch, brake, steering column from the Mustang. It uses the cable setup instead of hard linkage that the Jeep comes with. I bought the Jeep shaft and moved the linkage to the center instead of the end....
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That is a good looking setup and a sharp '5. Congrats on the build.
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thanks.. Did that answer what you needed????
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thanks.. Did that answer what you needed????
Where did you get the cable for the clutch linkage?
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It was the factory clutch cable from 93 Mustang 5.0.. I did replace with a new one...
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