258 won't start - JeepForum.com

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 12 Old 10-17-2013, 02:03 AM Thread Starter
tripster_sta
Registered User
1979 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: San Diego
Posts: 117
258 won't start

It was running good all day then I get home, shut her down and get ready for work and she won't start up. When I turn the ignition it sounds like it wants to start but doesn't.

So I did some researching and tried to check for spark with the screw driver method. Don't know if I did it right but I didn't see a spark.

Next step I ran a wire from my positive battery terminal to the positive wire on my coil, this is when everything went to $#!+

The pos wire leading from the coil to the splice and the one from the top of the starter solenoid to it's splice started smoking pretty bad.

So I run back to my keys and rank them out of the ignition and it didn't want to die so I knock the wire off I ran earlier and it finally kills.

I'm by no means an electrical wiz, but I think I have a bad solenoid. And by solenoid I think I mean that thing your positive battery cable runs to.

So what did I do wrong? What's broken?And how big of an idiot am I? Granted I was running late for work

Sent from toilet at work

tripster_sta is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 12 Old 10-17-2013, 02:07 AM
BagusJeep
Registered User
1981 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Bali
Posts: 5,487
Were you running to get to the toilet at work? Is your toilet broke as well?

BagusJeep lives in Bali.

1981 CJ7 258ci - Bagusjeep
1984 CJ7 258ci - Puthijeep
1981 J20 258ci - Gladys
1951 Willys CJ3A/MB/M38 - Little Willy
1995 Cherokee 4.0 - CHEROKEE
BagusJeep is offline  
post #3 of 12 Old 10-17-2013, 02:12 AM Thread Starter
tripster_sta
Registered User
1979 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: San Diego
Posts: 117
Insert "witty comment" here
I'm glad you took your time to comment

Sent from toilet at work
tripster_sta is offline  
post #4 of 12 Old 10-17-2013, 02:14 AM
BagusJeep
Registered User
1981 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Bali
Posts: 5,487
The wires will smoke when you short them out which suggests you have grounded the ignition. The ignition is not fused and for harness protection relies on the Fusible Link blowing. They are not designed to blow quickly so the wires woudl have smoked but you may have avoided damage. The wires go back to the ignition switch befoe joining on to the larger feed from the solenoid / fusible link. Any wiring damage should be confined to the section back to the switch.

It is likely that you connected the ignition to the battery negative post, are you sure you had it connected to the positive????

Now you have done it the wrong way perhaps you should invest $5 in a 12V test bulb and long leads and test the ignition.

Hook one end to the battery negative and go looking for voltage. In Run you should get a dim bulb at the coil +ve, in Start a bright bulb.

Now check the ignition module is functioning. Disconnect the light green wire from the coil -ve and hook one end to there and one to the battery positive. In Start does the bulb blink on and off? If so you have a working ignition module.

Come back with the results.

BagusJeep lives in Bali.

1981 CJ7 258ci - Bagusjeep
1984 CJ7 258ci - Puthijeep
1981 J20 258ci - Gladys
1951 Willys CJ3A/MB/M38 - Little Willy
1995 Cherokee 4.0 - CHEROKEE
BagusJeep is offline  
post #5 of 12 Old 10-17-2013, 02:25 AM Thread Starter
tripster_sta
Registered User
1979 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: San Diego
Posts: 117
Can't get any work done till tomorrow afternoon, but thanks for your information/guidance and time. I'll be posting tomorrow with the results and as always more questions.

Sent from toilet at work
tripster_sta is offline  
post #6 of 12 Old 10-17-2013, 09:56 PM Thread Starter
tripster_sta
Registered User
1979 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: San Diego
Posts: 117
Ok I checked the coil and have no light on the positive wire leading to the coil or the coil itself.

Sent from toilet at work
tripster_sta is offline  
post #7 of 12 Old 10-17-2013, 10:09 PM Thread Starter
tripster_sta
Registered User
1979 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: San Diego
Posts: 117


Think I may have sold this whole thing.
Standby.......

Sent from toilet at work
tripster_sta is offline  
post #8 of 12 Old 10-17-2013, 10:22 PM Thread Starter
tripster_sta
Registered User
1979 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: San Diego
Posts: 117
Ok lesson learned. It was a 30 fuse that was blown . Go figure.

So I bought over $100 worth of parts and tools. A new solenoid, msd blaster 2 coil, an electrical repair kit, and a mulitimeter.

That's my .02 for the fuse anyway.
I'm laughing out loud because on the inside it hurts.

Sent from toilet at work
tripster_sta is offline  
post #9 of 12 Old 10-18-2013, 08:43 AM
Matt1981CJ7
Web Wheeler
 
Matt1981CJ7's Avatar
1981 CJ7 
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Elbert
Posts: 17,368
On the bright side, you have a freshened up ignition, and you are well-prepared for the next electrical gremlin.

And there is always a next....

Matt


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Matt1981CJ7 is offline  
post #10 of 12 Old 10-18-2013, 03:39 PM Thread Starter
tripster_sta
Registered User
1979 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: San Diego
Posts: 117
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt1981CJ7 View Post
On the bright side, you have a freshened up ignition, and you are well-prepared for the next electrical gremlin.

And there is always a next....

Matt
I hear ya on that. It'll probably be the module next.

Sent from toilet at work
tripster_sta is offline  
post #11 of 12 Old 10-18-2013, 06:04 PM
shadoow
Senior Member
1985 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Fort Worth
Posts: 629
you seem to spend a lot of time on the toilet....
shadoow is offline  
post #12 of 12 Old 10-18-2013, 06:18 PM Thread Starter
tripster_sta
Registered User
1979 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: San Diego
Posts: 117
It's where I get most of my work done.

Sent from toilet at work
tripster_sta is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the JeepForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid e-mail address for yourself.



Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome