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Unread 08-06-2013, 11:44 AM   #16
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I wouldn't crank the engine over until you have the timing correct.This is a good way to bend a valve if one makes contact with a piston.

And what MoC said about the dots, and Matt about the 90*.

The easier way to do this would have been to put the new parts on, so they matched up to the old ones.
I would have done it that way but I was the one who put this chain one a while back. The jeep has been a total rebuild and hasn't ran in a couple years. It tried to get it running the other day and it wouldn't start. I had fuel and spark but it wouldn't fire. Timing was the only thing I could have wrong and after messing with the dizzy, I couldn't get it to start. I had to go back in to make sure the chain was in right. Looks like I was a tooth off. I hope this helps

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If you install it with the dot lined there are also instructions on how & where to spin the gears so you can count the teeth to make sure your not 1 off.
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Unread 08-06-2013, 01:02 PM   #18
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If you install it with the dot lined there are also instructions on how & where to spin the gears so you can count the teeth to make sure your not 1 off.
Yup and here it is; 3 o'clock timing mark on the crank and 1 o'clock on the cam, 15 chain pins between them. Hope this works!
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Unread 08-07-2013, 06:07 AM   #19
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Yup and here it is; 3 o'clock timing mark on the crank and 1 o'clock on the cam, 15 chain pins between them. Hope this works!
That's the method I use and it has never been wrong.

Here's a page right out of the FSM for correct timing of the cam and crankshaft sprockets.

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Unread 08-07-2013, 07:38 AM   #20
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Thanks Keith! I feel pretty good about what I did, hopefully it starts tonight when I get home.
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Thanks Keith! I feel pretty good about what I did, hopefully it starts tonight when I get home.
Good luck, Jay. Let us know how it goes.

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Unread 08-07-2013, 11:53 AM   #22
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I would pull the sp's and turn it by hand before I did a key start.
To be sure nut'n hits, nut'n.......
Good luck!
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I would pull the sp's and turn it by hand before I did a key start.
To be sure nut'n hits, nut'n.......
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I agree LG.
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That's the method I use and it has never been wrong.

Here's a page right out of the FSM for correct timing of the cam and crankshaft sprockets.

This. Dunzo.
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Unread 08-09-2013, 03:49 PM   #25
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Well guys I tried to start it last night and got the same result. I now have found a major vacuum leak at the intake manifold because its resting on the new borla header in three spots. I'm pretty sure once I get this fixed she should start and idle I her own...I hope! It sucks doing things twice over but sometimes that's how it goes I guess?
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Time to get out the BFH and do a little "adjustment" on the header pipes.
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Unread 08-10-2013, 09:56 AM   #27
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Time to get out the BFH and do a little "adjustment" on the header pipes.
LOL! I got out the die grinder instead... Got it all back together and going for a start when I get home from work...fingers crossed this time.
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Unread 08-10-2013, 11:56 PM   #28
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Well guys good news, she is running and running on her own. After I fixed the manifold vacuum leak it started right up and idled nicely. I didn't even set the timing or cal the idle control valve yet. Of course tho this thing don't wanna give up without a fight! From me cranking and cranking turns out I put a beating on the starter. Now it's staying fully engaged while it idles and it sounds bad. New starter tomorrow and everything should be a go! Thanks for all the ideas and help!
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