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Unread 05-02-2011, 07:16 PM   #16
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I am watching this thread with the same deal. I have checked out alot of stuff. My wheels have no play, stock shackles, tight box mount (upgraded)
I have about 1/4 turn "play" where the steering shaft enters the new steering box. That is, I can turn the steering shaft a little more than 1/4 turn before I see any activity at the pitman arm. Are you saying there is an adjustment to a steering box, or is this slop at the shaft / steering box normal? Note, I don't know if you checked or replaced the lower steering shaft bell coupler?
I have not replaced anything yet. I am still in the process of finding the best coarse of action. There is an adjustment which consists of a set screw and jam nut located on top of the steering box. I believe this adjustment changes the gear mesh inside the box. Too tight, and you risk damaging steering box, maybe even dangerous steering conditions. From what I have read, no more than 1/8 turn at a time with wheels off the ground. I am very reluctant to adjust steering box until I know that is the cause of my loose steering.

About 20 minutes ago I crawled under my CJ7 and turned the steering shaft back and forth by hand, and notice the Jeep sway right to left. It looks like maybe worn bushing in leaf spring shackles. Also noticed from the front, the shackles turn outward at the bottom. I going to do a little more digging.

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Unread 05-08-2011, 09:52 PM   #17
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I replaced my front leaf spring shackle bushings, and it has made a big difference in steering. I have a little more work to do.
Still have some play. I still need to replace main bushing, and I have a bent shackle bushing sleeve and bolt. I plan on replacing the shackles, bolts, and sleeves. I am hoping that will take care of the rest of the play.

More to come...
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Unread 05-09-2011, 07:16 AM   #18
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I will say this that I replace my steering box with a reman. Five units later I finally found one that was better than the one I turned is as a core. On my Ford it was leaking fluid so I rebuilt it myself rather than buying a reman. I've been through several reman steering boxes and carbs.
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Unread 05-23-2011, 03:13 PM   #19
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gary4569 how did you make out?
For me, I replaced the front shackles and bottom steering shaft bell coupler. Then noticed how mangled the steering box shaft was and how loose. replaced the steering box. Turns out the steering box was an aftermarket that was jury-rigged to the stock bell coupler, but worked for decades!
My steering is TIGHT, don't get me wrong, it still wanders a little, but at least it is not loose.
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Unread 05-23-2011, 04:51 PM   #20
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gary4569 how did you make out?
For me, I replaced the front shackles and bottom steering shaft bell coupler. Then noticed how mangled the steering box shaft was and how loose. replaced the steering box. Turns out the steering box was an aftermarket that was jury-rigged to the stock bell coupler, but worked for decades!
My steering is TIGHT, don't get me wrong, it still wanders a little, but at least it is not loose.
I am waiting for new front shackles to come in. What brand shackles did you buy?
I will check the coupler.

Thanks for the info.
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Unread 06-04-2011, 05:56 PM   #21
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While the front wheels where in the air, I check the wheel for play. Lots of play in the hub bearing. Took it apart and neither the inner or outer nut was tight. Tightened the inner to 50lbs and backed it off slightly. Tightened outer to 50lbs and reassembled.

I thought for sure this would take care of the rest of the steering play... and it seemed to for the first 20-30 minutes of driving. Hardly no steering play or jerky steering at all. Re-checked wheel for looseness and it is still tight, no bearing play.

My question:

What would make it drive great for the 1st 20-30 minutes and then from no where, loose/jerky steering?

I think I will let it cool off and then go for another drive.
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Unread 02-24-2014, 08:39 PM   #22
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Bad lower ball joints solve issue. Ball joints were stiff.
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