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post #61 of 78 Old 02-26-2013, 06:17 PM Thread Starter
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ok, i'm sold. so its a box from a 2002 H1? Hoping for new rather than reman...



thanks
I am pretty sure it is. No issues with the instal. I think I got a reman. It was like 180 bucks I think. I have been happy with mine, but I have heard that the J20 was a good swap too. I really don't know how the H1 compares to it. I like how BIG the H1 is versus the old one. Its huge

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post #62 of 78 Old 02-26-2013, 06:37 PM
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Its huge...Thats what she said.
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post #63 of 78 Old 05-06-2013, 09:59 AM
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[QUOTE]If you are not dead set on a Hummer box. A J10 box is a nice upgrade. Bigger piston, variable rate, easily turn 35" tires with one finger.

Is this box a direct bolt on? How much modification has to be done and are there anyother things needed for this to work. I have a '78 CJ5.

Thanks for the info.
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post #64 of 78 Old 05-06-2013, 01:57 PM Thread Starter
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I agree with VACJ7. Something is just not right. I will go take a photo of mine at lunch and post it since my front end is in pieces and a good photo should be a easy.

*Oops. Just saw that you changed the brace order in the second photo. The MORE kit should have had a spacer to even out the level between the sandwiched parts.

You can see the spacer and correct setup in the photo.

Good to know you are liking the new box. These are the kind of things I love finding out about on Cj forums.
I forgot to update. The problem has been fixed.






The spacer is now on like it should be
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post #65 of 78 Old 05-06-2013, 03:02 PM
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Look at pmcmotorsports.com website. I just sent mine to them and had it rebuilt for $150.00. Turn around time was about 1 week. I think the owner used to be with AGR. Great guys to deal with and did a great job.
What I heard was the owner of AGR sold out. He then claimed his old company was cutting corners, so he started PSC as soon as his non-compete clause was up. Which is what I would say if I went back into the same biz. I went w/an AGR, on sale @ Q-tec, and the long rod style brace. I called AGR and had them chrome plate the box and paid them for the up-charge directly. Then I sent out the rod brace and dropped pitman arm to Chrome Pros in Tx. The chrome should increase my top end and improve mpg's! I'm not finished building, so I can't provide feedback, but my buddy insisted that I buy this box. He LOVES his AGR. I'm using a new, stock pump. I hope it flows or has enough pressure as the AGR pump. I already had the new stock pump, and didn't want to waste money on their pump at 4x the cost. If it's an issue I'll swap it out as it should be easy enough.

I've also learned that sometimes... when people don't agree with you .... its best to hold them down and kidney punch them till they agree with you
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post #66 of 78 Old 05-16-2013, 08:25 AM
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So, I've read this thread and I'm trying to sort out some stuff. I may have missed it, but I'm trying to figure out if a J10 steering box will work on a stock '78 CJ5?

I know it will "work" as far as steering the jeep, but what will I have to change to make it work? I can get a remanned '74 box for $130.

Will the stock power steering pump, hoses and fittings work? Or do I need to find/get something else?

I just had a new power steering pump put on so I don't want to have to do that again.

Thanks for the help and info.

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post #67 of 78 Old 05-16-2013, 11:44 AM
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That Hummer box seems to be $199 at the parts stores, only 50 more than the reman stock box and about $300 less than a new PSC box. Not a bad deal. My box is in the same state as the OP, if someone can confirm they work, I might pick one of these up today. Also, can anyone confirm that the H1 boxes are variable? It looks as though they are.

Do stores generally frown on returning a different core though? At O'Reilly's that's only a $25 core though.
If you buy the unit, pay the core charge, then take the core back and get your money refunded, how do they know what you're returning? Unless they're both sitting there, side-by-side, they don't.

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post #68 of 78 Old 07-14-2013, 11:19 PM
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Can someone with a fitting H1 box post the A1 p/n? I am seeing 277595. I am concerned because Napa says the ports on their are a different size.

I tried rebuilding mine and it was a terrible failure so I need a new one now.
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post #69 of 78 Old 07-15-2013, 07:59 AM
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I just did the H1 swap last week. Bought one online from autozone. Got 20% off, and free shipping, so after I got the core charge back, it ended up being about $160. Mine is a '77, so I had to buy new hoses, for an 85 model. The pressure hose is easy to find, but nobody stocks the return hose fitting... Had to order it from BJ's Offroad $10. Other than that, no problems so far...
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post #70 of 78 Old 07-15-2013, 11:10 PM
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277595 appears to be the right unit, it fits but I must have gotten a bad one it does the same thing as the one I rebuilt - funky clunk clunk noises and notchy feel in the steering with poor/slow assist.

I will have to look it over carefully tomorrow to make sure I am not missing something. I am really getting tired of changing this thing. This has been the worst repair job ever by FAR.
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277595 appears to be the right unit, it fits but I must have gotten a bad one it does the same thing as the one I rebuilt - funky clunk clunk noises and notchy feel in the steering with poor/slow assist.

I will have to look it over carefully tomorrow to make sure I am not missing something. I am really getting tired of changing this thing. This has been the worst repair job ever by FAR.
Are you sure you don't have a bad bearing in the column?
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post #72 of 78 Old 07-16-2013, 12:21 PM
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Are you sure you don't have a bad bearing in the column?
Agreed. I don't think you have bad box. Did you check the bearings and steering shaft as well?
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post #73 of 78 Old 07-16-2013, 06:26 PM
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Agreed. I don't think you have bad box. Did you check the bearings and steering shaft as well?
I am checking it close tonight but I do not think so. It steered BEAUTIFULLY before, I just did this because the input shaft was leaking like a pig.

Also, the new one is not just clunking the assist is poor and it feels crappy.
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post #74 of 78 Old 07-16-2013, 10:12 PM
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I played with it some more and I think I resolved the noise issue but the assist is still poor. I am fairly certain all of the air is out I think the valve must be sticking. It is often difficult when changing direction.
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post #75 of 78 Old 08-17-2015, 07:47 AM
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I'm bring this one back from the dead!

I have an '84 CJ-7 and I think my steering box is getting worn out. It steers much harder to the left than to the right, almost like it has less power.
I think I would like to go with the H1 box upgrade, since it looks like it is a direct bolt in - I would do the J20 box, but I don't want to replace the Heavy duty steering shaft I bought only 2 years ago.

Those of you that run the H1 box, how are they performing after a few years, are you happy with it, would you do it again?

thanks!

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