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Unread 06-17-2008, 08:02 AM   #1
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1969 cj-5

UPDATE: Bought the Jeep-------Pics Below...


I am trying to gather some information on the drive train / gearing options that might be in a 1969 cj-5 that I am considering buying.

So far all the current owner can tell me is that it has a 4 cyl. engine, and a 3 speed transmission. Other than that he has no idea what the front and rear axles are, gearing, or what the transfer case is. Although, he does claim that it is all original

For the price he's asking, and judging by the pictures I've seen I'll probably just by it, but I'd like to get an idea what it may have originally came with.

Let me know what you think......Thanks...


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Unread 06-17-2008, 09:15 AM   #2
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If it is original it will have the infamous F-134. These motors are known for lasting literally forever. They are a cross between a flathead and OHV, one valve is in the head and the other is in the block. Transmission should be the Warner T14, and transfer case Dana 18. The Dana 18 should connect to an offset 19 spline Dana 44 rear. The drop on the front Dana 27 should be on the same side as the offset Dana 44 rear (2-piece axle shafts). The drops are on the passenger side. The Dana 25/27 is a closed knuckle front axle, so it won't have as tight a turning radius as the newer open knuckle style Dana 30 the later CJs came with. Gears are probably pretty tall. They should be 4.27 or 5.38. Even with that F-134 making under 100hp, the gears will more than make up for it! You will top out at around 40mph, but you can buy a Warn or Saturn overdrive that bolts onto the back of the transfer case and gives you more gear for highway driving.

Sounds like a pretty sweet deal if it's all original and in decent shape. I would love to have an early CJ with a F-134 and all original drivetrain...
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Unread 06-17-2008, 09:26 AM   #3
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Sub.......Thanks for the info.....That's exactly what I was looking for.

I made the guy an offer a little while ago, and should hear back from him shortly.

Judging from the pictures, it seems to be a real good starting point for a project. No real rust issues, pretty straight body, and most, if not all of the parts are there

It will definitely need some attention to make it roadworthy, but nothing I can't handle.

The most interesting thing about it is, somebody added a section to the back end of it to make the body look like a CJ-8. It looks kinda strange with the longer tub and only a CJ-5 wheelbase, and I'm not a fan of it at all.

I'm pretty confident that I can return the body to a CJ-5 length in a matter of hours, so it's not a big issue.

I should hear back from the guy shortly, so we'll see how it goes....
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Unread 06-17-2008, 10:39 AM   #4
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Actually, I don't believe the T14 was offered behind the 4culinder. It should be a T90 or T86 (or a combo of both).
specops, Are you sure it was modified? A CJ6 was available with an extended body and wheelbase.
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Unread 06-17-2008, 12:13 PM   #5
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Are you sure it was modified? A CJ6 was available with an extended body and wheelbase.
I'm positive it's a CJ-5 with an extension of the tub. When I first saw it, I was thinking CJ-6, but unfortunately it was an added on extension. The craftsmanship of the extension is fair, I'll definitely be taking it off.

I offered the guy $500, that's a little less than he was asking......I hope he goes for it. I'm willing to go higher, but I think he really needs to move it.
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Unread 06-17-2008, 04:20 PM   #6
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Before you take off that rear extension, do some research. I have a vague memory of seeing that as an option or aftermarket accesory for early CJ's. Can't remember where I saw it, but if I'm right it might be worth something to somebody.
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Unread 06-18-2008, 05:01 PM   #7
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Well .......we settled on $600, so I'll be picking it up Monday or Tuesday...

I have quite a few ideas on how I'd like to build it up.....just need to decide what direction to go......Let me know what you think.....

Here's a few pics:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...3fe5d09c70.jpg
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Unread 06-18-2008, 05:25 PM   #8
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Well .......we settled on $600, so I'll be picking it up Monday or Tuesday...

I have quite a few ideas on how I'd like to build it up.....just need to decide what direction to go......Let me know what you think.....

Here's a few pics:




For the record, I'm jealous. That looks like a GREAT deal at $600. I see what you mean on the back. That's sort of strange, but at least you think you can remove it pretty easily.

It really depends on whether you want to keep it stock or build a beast. IMO, there's nothing better than an early Willys/Kaiser CJ all original, lifted a few inches with some tall and skinny Super Swampers or buckshot mudders.
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Unread 06-18-2008, 05:39 PM   #9
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I'm pretty happy with the deal.......Best of all it's been inside a storage shed, not sitting out side in the weather.

I'm definitely considering building it up like stock, and maybe just the small lift and some taller,skinny tires. maybe just fab up some small but heavier duty bumpers with tow hooks / D-rings

I've also been thinking of doing it with a larger lift and maybe some 33's . Add some beefy bumpers and a decent roll cage.....something a little more on the lines of an "offroad" build.

And lastly, I was considering a more "military" type look.


I don't know yet.....so many options.....
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