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post #1531 of 4842 Old 02-27-2014, 11:59 AM
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There hasn't been a set time for when the failure takes place. I felt all high and mighty because there wasn't any failure for months. Every time I tested the low range it worked flawlessly. I just knew I was one of the lucky ones who wasn't going to have trouble. Then one day after 1157 miles is when I got the "Service 4WD System" message. After a reflash from the dealer (having to leave my Jeep at the dealer all day) it is working again without replacing a single part. For how long this time is anyone's guess.
Mine lasted almost a week once then only a day every time thereafter

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post #1533 of 4842 Old 02-27-2014, 02:50 PM
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I understand that no one has had a vehicle for a year since the recall - I was just using the time frame of a year to make a point. I have put nearly 3000 miles and almost 3 weeks on it and no issues since the reflash - at what point do I consider it "good"? Should I still be looking for a pre-update FDCM? Should I wait it out a little longer and see if I have any issues? At what point is it "good"?
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oops - actually it is nearly 2000 miles - not 3000 - i figured it out wrong in my head
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I understand that no one has had a vehicle for a year since the recall - I was just using the time frame of a year to make a point. I have put nearly 3000 miles and almost 3 weeks on it and no issues since the reflash - at what point do I consider it "good"? Should I still be looking for a pre-update FDCM? Should I wait it out a little longer and see if I have any issues? At what point is it "good"?
A pre-update FDCM is about $100. That's cheap insurance for anytime it does go bad.

I got the recall done on 10/23, it was able to go into neutral to pull behind an RV on 11/13 and got the Service 4WD System message on 12/19. Went back to dealer on 12/26 and they installed the new actuator on 2/20. I'm hopeful but there's no way I won't have backup going forward.
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Rv - what is the best way to find one?
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Check my post #1338 in this thread that has a step by step explanation.
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I have asked this several times, but no one has answered or given an opinion. On Monday it will be 3 weeks since the dealer reflashed my Commander. I have tested it every day, sometimes a couple times a day, I have engaged and driven in 4Low for a few minutes in the snow several times now. At what point can I consider this issue fixed? If it is some sort of issue with voltage tolerances, wouldn't it have showed up within 3 weeks? If it is a voltage issue - is there something I can do to push the limits to see if it is fixed permanently?

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No one has a crystal ball or can foresee the future.

You can consider the issue fixed when your happy.

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I'll consider it fixed when Chrysler grows a pair and sends me a later stating they will FIX it right for no cost. I'm not holding my breathe for that though.
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I guess what I am getting at is that if it is a voltage problem - one would think that something causes a surge that then brings about the code - right? If it is not a voltage problem and is some sort of self diagnostic problem, one would think that there is some sort of interval that would trigger the code - right? Why would it take a day for one person, a week for another, and months for another for the code to be triggered and therefore the loss of 4Low? It seems to me, and I admit I know very little about this stuff, that it would be either triggered by a certain amount of miles or by something that would cause a voltage surge, would it not?
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jjarvis - but for me - I have not been charged anything and the 4Low has been engaging every day for almost 3 weeks. I may still buy a pre-flashed FDCM just in case - but I am tending to think that after 3 weeks and almost 2000 miles of testing it daily and using it several times that it is likely fixed at no cost to me.
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jjarvis - but for me - I have not been charged anything and the 4Low has been engaging every day for almost 3 weeks. I may still buy a pre-flashed FDCM just in case - but I am tending to think that after 3 weeks and almost 2000 miles of testing it daily and using it several times that it is likely fixed at no cost to me.
I haven't been charged anything either and I'm far out of warranty. Just sucks to drop your vehicle off at a place that should be able to fix it and it only gets worse. Also having a vehicle that is suppose to do something that its not due to their ignorance.
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The only way to know it's fixed is: 1. Jeep admits and then identifies a difference between the current fix method and and a new fix method and then 2. people that have it done qualify that they no longer experience an issue for over a year. I won't do the recall until those 2 things happened and I am not holding my breath. Look at what GM did on the recent ignition issue, years with no notification, people died, still nothing, then finally it reached over 1.3+ million recalled vehicles. Put it all in perspective and you will realize what extent companies will or won't go to.

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Oh - I agree, if I had not had the recall done - I would not do it either - obviously there is some issue with it - whether it is techs not doing it right the first time, whether it is the voltage problem, or whether it is the least likely - that it is some other issue that is now being detected.
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