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Unread 10-24-2012, 10:16 PM   #1
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Windshield mounted light Laws. PA

So today as I was driving I happened to be pulled over by a Pennsylvania State Trooper, rather odd I wasn't speeding, texting, and had my seat belt on. So what could it be? Officer approaches my window asks for the usually documentation yada, yada, yada and proceeds to tell me he pulled me over because I have a tinted license plate cover. Hmm no biggie. I'll just remove it. So he goes on to tell me my Hella 500 lights mounted to the windshield are illegal in Pennsylvania. *note they are covered with the rock shield allowing no light through while on road use.* intended for only off-road use only. Before even purchasing my lights I looked up all the legal mumbo jumbo to see if they were legal in the State of Pennsylvania. To my prior knowledge and findings they were. So he issued a warning to remove them and the plate cover. He told me that roof mounted lights are legal, but he pointed out this issue with me having my soft top on the jeep...contradicting. His reasoning when I asked why they were illegal and what Statues he was abiding by were that they quote "are probably illegal Ornamental lamps and if not stock they are probably illegal" end quote. Anyone see an issue here? Anybody have the same problem?

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Vehicle code states that if they are covered they aren't illegal.

State trooper needs to go back to the academy.
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Remove the plate cover and download the vehicle code from the DMV website. If you find the lights are illegal remove them and if not print off the appropriate section and stick it in your glove box. If same officer pulls you over politely show him the regulation and ask him if you are misinterpreting it. Probably have no more issues. :-)
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Vehicle code states that if they are covered they aren't illegal.

State trooper needs to go back to the academy.
That may be correct when considering auxillery lighting options, but do the mount locations interfere with any forward visibility... i/e blind spots?
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Officer is on a high horse and needs to be kicked off in the most violent and aggressive manner possible.

http://liftlaws.com/pennsylvania_lift_laws.htm

Towards the bottom portion,

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In addition to headlights and tail lights, vehicles in Pennsylvania are allowed to have additional lights installed. Off-road lights are allowed as long as they are covered and not in use while the vehicle is driven on the road.
The vehicle codes are listed alongside as well and likely can be cited on the DMV website for PA. Take these to court and fight it, the ticket will be dismissed.

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Another thing, vehicles are allowed up to 4 individual lights for illuminating the road ahead in ALL 50 states. Modern vehicles often have 2 primary driving lights, in addition to having 2 dedicated fog lamps. A lot of vehicles also have 2 dedicated high beam bulbs, ontop of the 2 driving (and some vehicles have all 3) from the factory. It is perfectly legal to drive with 4 lamps on at the same time to illuminate the road in front of you.

I have my headlights as well as a pair of 100W driving lights wired with my high beams. No issues whatsoever.
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4303. General lighting requirements.
(f) Off-road lighting.--Off-road lighting lamps may be mounted on the roof
or roll bar of a vehicle and shall be covered with an opaque covering that
prohibits any light from being emitted when the vehicle is being operated on
a highway or trafficway. Any person who illuminates an off-road lighting lamp
while the vehicle is being operated on a highway or a trafficway commits a
summary offense and shall, upon conviction, be sentenced to pay a fine of
$100.


Does MAY BE MOUNTED ON THE ROOF OR ROLL BAR, mean "in addition to other places", or "only allowed to be mounted to" the roof or roll bar.???
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Usually in law language "may be mounted" means that is the sole place they are legal.
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It is not clearly stated in every location they are allowed, it only mentions a couple of locations. What about on the front bumper? In the grill? Hood? Fenders? Doors? Not very specific.
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If they are over 41" high, or above the headlights, they must have covers on them. Stone guards do not count as covers.
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It is not clearly stated in every location they are allowed, it only mentions a couple of locations. What about on the front bumper? In the grill? Hood? Fenders? Doors? Not very specific.
Off-road lights are only allowed in the "may be mounted" locations. Driving or fog lights fall into a differant standard.

Often the laws are only enforced if an officer is having a bad day or notices you doing something silly and he needs a reason to pull you over. Of course if you are a jerk to the officer then you get written up for everything.
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