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Unread 02-13-2008, 09:16 PM   #1
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Winch for self-recovery?

Through a combination of my own *******ery and crappy Vermont winter weather, I usually get stuck at least a couple times per year. I don't like calling people to pull me out and so I've been thinking more about buying a winch for self-recovery. I have a few wonderances about that, though.

Usually winches are mounted on the front of the vehicle (granted, they are usually not for self-recovery, but that aside). Well, usually if I go off the road, I am going forward at the time. So what good is the winch when I'm stuck nose-first? Is there a way around that without mounting a second winch in the rear?

What if I have nothing to hook onto? I've thought of carrying around some stakes and a sledge hammer so as to possibly anchor myself when nothing else is around, but I'm not sure if that would be feasible, especially considering that generally my need for self-recovery coincides with frozen ground and an amplitude of snow.

Lastly, does anyone have any recommendations for a decent, reasonably priced winch suitable for recovering a stock '03 Wrangler?

Thanks in advance.

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Unread 02-13-2008, 09:20 PM   #2
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They make winch brackets for a reciever so you can have it in front or back.
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Unread 02-13-2008, 09:21 PM   #3
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you can have a hitch mounted winch. where the winch is mounted on the receiver and you have a hitch on the front and rear of the jeep. you put the winch where you need it. if theres nothing around for you to winch off of, theres a thing called a pull pal i believe is the name. basically its like a boat anchor that digs into the ground so you can winch out. A cheap but good winch would be the smitty bilt xr8 i think is the name, theres a review on here of it. its 300 dollars, this is the cheapest one around but should do fine. or you can move up to warn winches if you have the money. These are way nicer. hope this helps let me know if you have anymore questions
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Everytime I'm stuck by myself there is nothing to hook to, however if I would build an anchor that would solve that!
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Unread 02-14-2008, 08:00 AM   #5
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Winch Buddy solves that problem, if you have to you can bury a spare tire in the ground attatched to a strap.

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Unread 02-14-2008, 08:11 AM   #6
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Pull Pal is one of the best things out there.
On the other hand, It is usually best to go out wheeling with somebody else.
Getting stuck is one thing, being injured is a totally different one, and potentially dangerous if you have no way to call for help.
And as mentioned before, the receiver winches are good too, just make sure you are not buried to your armpits before you decide to get the winch out from the front mount, or you might also need a snorkel.
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Unread 02-14-2008, 08:15 AM   #7
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Yeah pull pal whas what I was thinking about, not winch buddy.
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Unread 02-14-2008, 09:24 AM   #8
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I heard that you can take your spare and a hi-lift and use that as a recovery point. Put the hi-lift through the rim and bury it. I guess if the grounds frozen you aren't digging though...
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Unread 02-14-2008, 09:42 AM   #9
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Winch Buddy solves that problem, if you have to you can bury a spare tire in the ground attatched to a strap.
Can someone explain how to do this?
When I play the scenario in my head it just seems like the tire would pull out of the ground.
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Unread 02-14-2008, 11:08 AM   #10
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The winch on my YJ is mounted in front, but at one time I had my winch mounted in the bed of a full-size Chevy pickup. The theory was that once I was stuck, I'd already gone too far forward.

One time I was stuck in the snow and there wasn't anything behind the truck. There was a very large scrubby-looking bush at a nearly 4:00 position. I removed the tailgate and rigged the snatch block (ugly setup) to the rear hitch and took the cable through it and then to a chain wrapped around the bush. I then took the truck out of 4WD and while winding the cable in I got on the gas so the rear wheels were spinning. That allowed the rear end of the truck to easily rotate around and got me to a spot where the footing was better. Disconnected and reeled the cable in, reassembled the tailgate, put her back in 4WD and away I went.

Another time I had the same truck stuck in a small snowbank. Nothing behind it till the next zipcode. Tree ahead of the truck was reachable by assembling all the chokers, chains, etc I had with me. So the truck with the 8000# winch in the back was freed with a $14.95 cable comealong on the front. Every "stuck" is different, and not all of them call for a 12,000# winch and 6 snatch blocks. I roll my eyes when posters insist comealongs are so useless.................chim
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Unread 02-14-2008, 01:18 PM   #11
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Winch Buddy solves that problem, if you have to you can bury a spare tire in the ground attatched to a strap.
Not in the winter I can't...
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Unread 02-14-2008, 02:01 PM   #12
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you can have a hitch mounted winch. where the winch is mounted on the receiver and you have a hitch on the front and rear of the jeep. you put the winch where you need it. if theres nothing around for you to winch off of, theres a thing called a pull pal i believe is the name. basically its like a boat anchor that digs into the ground so you can winch out. A cheap but good winch would be the smitty bilt xr8 i think is the name, theres a review on here of it. its 300 dollars, this is the cheapest one around but should do fine. or you can move up to warn winches if you have the money. These are way nicer. hope this helps let me know if you have anymore questions
So this is the winch you referenced, right?
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=40764

But I take it that winch isn't designed to be moved after it has been mounted?

Do you know of any similarly affordable winches which can be moved to the rear if needed?

Do I need an 8000 pound rated winch? What's the lowest I should consider?
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Unread 02-14-2008, 02:15 PM   #13
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I think you can mount just about any kind of winch to a receiver winch plate. You will need wiring/disconnects.

Lowest winch weight rating = vehicle weight X 2

Pull pall works in snow.
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Unread 02-14-2008, 02:18 PM   #14
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Not winching related, but it is self recovery related. Just carry a length of chain with a d ring to connect it back onto itself:



Might need one on both sides if you have open diffs. Just drive over the log, stop and unhook. wash, rinse, repeat until your unstuck.
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Unread 02-14-2008, 02:49 PM   #15
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Nice trick with the log. Probably a good way to break something and ruin a rim, but would sure work in a bind.
Ive jacked up the stuck tire and put crap under it to get traction floor mats, branches, etc.
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