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Unread 01-31-2010, 06:26 PM   #1
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whats the better deal

I am currently in the market for a jeep.(I am buying one SOON)

my options are 1987 yj front and rear rebuilt
trans rebuilt (auto)
rebuilt motor 4.0 re-sleeved to OEM spec
body in perfect condition
cost 7,000.00

1997 2.5 cylinder 110,000 miles
5-speed Manuel
body great condition
5 matching after market rims and new tires
cost 5,000.00

whats the better deal HELP

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Unread 01-31-2010, 06:46 PM   #2
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$7k seems mighty high for an old YJ. I'd worry about who did all the "rebuilding" on it. More potential for failure if it wasn't properly rebuilt. $5k for the TJ seems fair but it's a 4 banger with a 110k. Short of passing on both of them I'd say the TJ.
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Unread 01-31-2010, 06:50 PM   #3
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$7k seems mighty high for an old YJ. I'd worry about who did all the "rebuilding" on it. More potential for failure if it wasn't properly rebuilt. $5k for the TJ seems fair but it's a 4 banger with a 110k. Short of passing on both of them I'd say the TJ.
agreed, get the TJ and put that extra 2k towards a new engine. unless your not planning on driving on the freeway much.
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Unread 01-31-2010, 06:55 PM   #4
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Neither, wait for a newer 4.0 6 cylinder. The 87 will be a 4.2 and carbureted. A 91 and newer will have a 4.0 and fuel injection. The TJ while nice will leave you wishing you had a 6 cylinder.
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Unread 01-31-2010, 07:33 PM   #5
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Go for the TJ. I bought mine for the same price with an engine rebuild.
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Unread 01-31-2010, 07:35 PM   #6
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agreed, get the TJ and put that extra 2k towards a new engine. unless your not planning on driving on the freeway much.
I have considered the new engine
i have about 7500 to spend after the purchase of the tj can i convert to the 6 or should i get a beefed up four I am no mechanic but u have seen adds for a stroker 6 and a 4 with mods tell me I dont have a clue.I plan to use this jeep to access muddy job sites as I am in construction.If I like the jeep addiction,and I'm sure I will get hooked the end game is a new Rubicon.I figured I would start out used before i dropped 27k just to make sure
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Unread 01-31-2010, 07:38 PM   #7
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I would just wait, get a nice stock YJ with a 4.0, then use the money left over for a lift and tires and all the other goodies.
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Unread 01-31-2010, 07:53 PM   #8
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i can tell this forum is going to be very helpful How is the 4 cylinder off road I am familiar with the 6 -and can the 4 be beefed up I am impressed with the set up on that jeep despite the motor ( rhino floor and flares,sony sound bar diff bumpers blue paint basically just how I would do it minus the motor
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Unread 01-31-2010, 07:55 PM   #9
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I would pass on both, $7k seems way to much for an 87 and I wouldn't get the 2.5L. The 2.5 is good on the trails and city, but once you get up in speed it is useless. Just wait it out for a 4.0.
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Unread 01-31-2010, 07:57 PM   #10
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I don't have any problems with my 2.5 L, but it's all stock. I imagine when you start putting bigger tires on it, it won't be too happy.
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Unread 01-31-2010, 08:22 PM   #11
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I've got a 2.5 and have no problems. I paid about that for mine (Traded 1,400 and a 96 Explorer XLT with 148k), and it was at 124k when I got it and felt like I was stealing it from the guy. As long as you do basic maintenance the engine will last longer than you will You can turbo it, go with a bigger throttle body, and regear. For the turbo though, you'll need to have the whole fuel system reworked iirc. If you're mechanically gifted it isn't a problem and is relatively cheap, if not then you'll need to find someone who is, and that's where it gets expensive. The throttle body I haven't done (yet), but if you upgrade it and then go with a decent CAI then supposedly there's a few HP difference which can help when you don't have much HP to begin with. If you regear to like 4.88 with the TB and CAI then it supposedly isn't too bad with like 33s (What I'm planning to do).

You could also take that 2k and put it in the bank, then save up a bit more. The biggest performance mod for an I4 is to add 4 cylinders . Check out www.auto-part.com for a local junkyard that has a Chevy LM7 which is a 5.3 that you can find in an Avalanche, Sierra, Silverado, or Suburban. The ECU/PCM for these engines is customizable, so you'll just need to have it reprogrammed to work with a manual trans. You'll also need to upgrade your trans to an AX-15 and your rear axle to a D44 for a Ford Explorer's Ford 8.8 (which would probably be cheaper).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Vortec_engine#LM7
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