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Old 09-06-2003, 04:36 PM   #1
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What is your definition of "pornography"?

I got home from work early yesterday and caught the tail end of the Dr. Phil Show. The part I saw was a bunch of women bashing men and the guys trying to understand what women want. Many of the women mentioned men looking at "internet porn". The guys did not seem to have a clue.

I understood the women were considering any nakedness as pornography. I feel differently, as some nude photography can be attractive while other lewd type pics are definitely trash. I believe most people's idea of what constitutes pornography are totally different.

Just wanted to hear other opinions on what is or isn't tolerable to others, looking for a generally agreeable definition for the word.

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Old 09-06-2003, 05:30 PM   #2
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I got home from work early yesterday and caught the tail end of the Dr. Phil Show. The part I saw was a bunch of women bashing men and the guys trying to understand what women want. Many of the women mentioned men looking at "internet porn". The guys did not seem to have a clue.

I understood the women were considering any nakedness as pornography. I feel differently, as some nude photography can be attractive while other lewd type pics are definitely trash. I believe most people's idea of what constitutes pornography are totally different.

Just wanted to hear other opinions on what is or isn't tolerable to others, looking for a generally agreeable definition for the word.
I don't think that just being naked on film is pornography. I think that if the nakedness depicts sex or is used to arouse sexual thoughts in the viewer it is pornography.
With that said, I gotta go now and surf for some good porn sites.
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Old 09-06-2003, 05:49 PM   #3
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If it gives ya' wood or ya' spank to it, it's porn.
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Old 09-06-2003, 06:22 PM   #4
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blupupher, I'm glad you didn't hold back on your opinion, lol. But that is a rough description of what I think pornography is.
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Old 09-06-2003, 06:23 PM   #5
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Shall we consult dictionary.com
por·nog·ra·phy
Sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.

Blah ha ha
By that you can now throw
most magazines
Magazine adds
TV
TV commercials
Movies
Billboards
Music
Las Vegas
Into the porn category!

And by the way Dr. Phil is an IDIOT and he is just as bad as the rest of TV resorting to sensationalism to get ratings!

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Old 09-06-2003, 07:14 PM   #6
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If it gives ya' wood or ya' spank to it, it's porn.
Werd!! Any exposure of skin in the "strike zone" is porn
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Old 09-06-2003, 10:57 PM   #7
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By that you can now throw most magazines, magazine adds, TV, TV commercials, Movies, Billboards, Music, Las Vegas, into the porn category!
Whats wrong with that? Perhaps the first thing we need to realize is that pornography is not something evil. For some reason, nakedness is a faux pas in America. In other nations, it is not really a big deal.

Case in point, a while back I was on a charter boat with couple from France. They had just finished diving, and the woman changed right in front of everyone. I have to admit, I was stunned at first, but then I kinda realized that it is no big deal.

As far as pornography in relationships. It isn't always a bad thing. Like many other things, it's best kept in moderation.
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Old 09-06-2003, 11:30 PM   #8
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I don't see why so many people feel porn is wrong. As long as the models are consenting adults, there should be no problem. If you don't like it, don't look at it.
And these women *****ing about their men using porn is bulls**t, too. It is healthier for a guy to polish the bishop and take care of a physical need than to be grouchy because his wife/gf/whatever has a headache or doesn't feel like putting out for whatever reason.
This is why I support the legalizing of prostitution. Call me a pervert if you want, but I regard spending time with a hooker who got into the business of her own free will, or any casual sex for that matter, to be no different from masturbation. Just more fun. And it need not take away from marriage. Having sex and making love are worlds apart.
The simple fact is that we all have physical needs. The sooner we all recognize that, the better off we'll be.
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Old 09-07-2003, 12:07 AM   #9
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PA, I think your a little short sighted in your statement, especially in regards to legalizing prostitution.

If you legalize something, then by default you have to govern and enforce it. A task which is not small by any means and logistically a "Nightmare" for a COUNTRY the size of the USA. I know that Nevada has bunny ranches and all that fun stuff, however Nevada is not a country, in fact it only exists because of the stringent regulations that the county placed on the houses. I'm sure if you asked the Assembly that approved this, they would tell you that it wouldn't scale very well not at all.

Also, in the day and age of "Public Awareness" and STDs the possibility of a Prostitute having her carrer irrevocably ended and being prematurely condemned to death is only slightly lower then your average Infantry man during WWI.

As for the actual question, in a visual sense I would use the question of "Is he/she Nude?" to be my broadest filter, however I would not rule out contextual "matue art".

Me personally, I'm more offended by the notorious "whole animal segmented behind glass" thing then some exposed genitals.
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Old 09-07-2003, 01:21 AM   #10
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Whats wrong with that? Perhaps the first thing we need to realize is that pornography is not something evil. For some reason, nakedness is a faux pas in America. In other nations, it is not really a big deal.

Case in point, a while back I was on a charter boat with couple from France. They had just finished diving, and the woman changed right in front of everyone. I have to admit, I was stunned at first, but then I kinda realized that it is no big deal.

As far as pornography in relationships. It isn't always a bad thing. Like many other things, it's best kept in moderation.
Nothing, and I think you are absolutly correct.
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Old 09-07-2003, 03:13 AM   #11
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PA, I think your a little short sighted in your statement, especially in regards to legalizing prostitution.

If you legalize something, then by default you have to govern and enforce it. A task which is not small by any means and logistically a "Nightmare" for a COUNTRY the size of the USA. I know that Nevada has bunny ranches and all that fun stuff, however Nevada is not a country, in fact it only exists because of the stringent regulations that the county placed on the houses. I'm sure if you asked the Assembly that approved this, they would tell you that it wouldn't scale very well not at all.

Also, in the day and age of "Public Awareness" and STDs the possibility of a Prostitute having her carrer irrevocably ended and being prematurely condemned to death is only slightly lower then your average Infantry man during WWI.
Agreed. I was speaking as to the morality rather than the logistics of establishing legalized brothels. It could be done, but it would be costly, and there are those on the religious fringe who would feel justified in blowing up a brothel, just as they do abortion clinics. Among other problems. Perhaps the best solution would be to create Red Light districts along the same lines of those in Amsterdam. This approach seems to have worked fairly well for the Dutch.
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Old 09-07-2003, 04:16 AM   #12
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I would normally agree accept for one lynch pin, and that is actually the countries Government Structure...

Netherlands: Constitutional monarchy

USA: Constitution-based federal republic; strong democratic tradition.

As you can imagine having one person absoluetely calling the shots makes life a smidge easier then having nearly 400 delegates representing 50 states in a bicamaral system can lead to more then its fair share of hiccups and speed bumps. Especially when its fairly apparent that a good portion of those 400 delegates are willing to whistle the tune of any man who can pay for it.
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Old 09-07-2003, 06:25 AM   #13
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......after a weekend porn marathon.......
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Old 09-07-2003, 06:58 AM   #14
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Perhaps the best solution would be to create Red Light districts along the same lines of those in Amsterdam. This approach seems to have worked fairly well for the Dutch.
Absolutely. I lived in The Netherlands for 13 years, & saw first hand the results of legalized prostitution, tolerance of soft drug use, & a low drinking age. Simply put, the Dutch really have it together. They are an open minded, peaceful, succesful society. For a country it's size, Holland has produced some amazing engineering & construction feats. Half the country is underwater, that should tell you something.

At first glance, Holland, with it's lax laws & tolerances, would seem like a crime ridden, festering hole, filled with drugged out perverts. Not really. It's a very nice place, with very friendly people, who have an open mind about anything.

CA4PNY450, yes Holland is a monarchy, but look across the Channel at the UK. They are a monarchy as well, but they hardly have the open minded attitude towards porn, drugs, & alcohol that the Dutch do. It's not about the ruler, it's about the people.

The Dutch also happen to make some VERY fine cheez
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......after a weekend porn marathon.......
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