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Unread 04-08-2009, 08:15 PM   #46
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So again, who owns the land? Is it private individuals who have 20 to 100's of acres or is it owned by the state? Hypothetically if you were to get hurt on these roads and were sue happy, who is liable? That's why there is so much of an issue with trespassing and destruction of property and people are protective of their land. And there's not as much wide open territory in the middle and eastern states.

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Unread 04-21-2009, 06:17 AM   #47
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wheeling in my opinion is different for every vehicle. when my CJ was stock extreme wheeling is what broke the frame in 3 places but the same trails and obstacles now are just a walk in the park not even that chalenging. so wheeling is defined by the vehicle + situations and not just the situations. just one young and still very dumb guy's opinion
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Unread 05-01-2009, 06:36 AM   #48
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having fun..pushing yourself and the vehicle.
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Unread 05-01-2009, 07:15 AM   #49
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To where you have exhausted all possibility of continuing in 2wd and you have to engage 4wd for survival. Thats real wheeling to me... lol
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Unread 05-01-2009, 07:47 AM   #50
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I think working the suspension/having it on 2-3 wheels and the threat of body damage = wheeling.
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Unread 05-01-2009, 07:50 AM   #51
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To where you have exhausted all possibility of continuing in 2wd and you have to engage 4wd for survival. Thats real wheeling to me... lol
Or in my case as soon as you reach over for the locker switch
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Unread 05-01-2009, 08:03 AM   #52
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a real jeep is one that will drive you hundreds of miles to the trail, take all the hell you can give it, break nothing important, drive you home, then bring you to work the next day.

real wheeling includes being on the edge of getting stuck, wether in rocks, boulders, or mud, but almost always you will pull through.



Even when you're 800 miles from home!
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Unread 05-01-2009, 08:40 AM   #53
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Or in my case as soon as you reach over for the locker switch
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Unread 06-14-2009, 08:06 PM   #54
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Anyone in a Honda Civic can drive it on a dirt road and say they are wheeling. That doesn't make it so.

When you have to disconnect you swaybar and air down your tires to make it through the trail... then you are wheeling.
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Unread 06-14-2009, 08:39 PM   #55
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I have to say wheeling has nothing to do with 4x4. I followed a jeep comanche pickup up a trail in Adak AK. I was in a 1987 Chevy sprint with a 3 cylinder and a 5 speed. After he was no longer able to continue in 4 wheel drive. He backed down and my wife and I continued the rest of the trail.

Wheeling is using your driving skill and knowledge of your vehicle to go places most people wouldn't. I have gone places in a Chevy Sprint and also a Ford escort wagon, that most people would not take their 4x4's out of fear of them getting dirty.
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I agree driving skill and technique are key... but I doubt you'd want to take your Sprint to JV and do the hammers!
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Unread 06-14-2009, 10:12 PM   #57
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doesnt matter what kind, as long as you are having fun. Whether it is on mild logging and fire roads, mud pits or rock crawling courses.
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Unread 06-15-2009, 12:14 AM   #59
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I would say real wheeling is anytime you push yourself and/or your rig to it's limits offroad.
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Unread 06-15-2009, 11:18 AM   #60
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Wheeling has meant a few things in my driving experiences. I used to wheel the big foot in the deserts of the Mojave.. that in its day was balls out 4 wheel low taking small mountains, trails, goatpaths and the like at the highest speeds attainable under the guise of safety..............yeah right, totally depending on that double 3-inch fatboy rollbar bolted to the frame through the bed of the truck.

Now my wheeling consists of yup, locking in, actually mentally and physically trying to plot the right line and then within a hope and a prayer getting through it with the least amount of damage as possible ( my DD) .

Another difference is the amount of armor I have outfitted the TJ with. I feel much more comfortable with taking a line that isn't really there.. like crawling big rocks. If you check your line and see previous scraps on the rock.. or pieces/chunks of metal it could be a challenging line.. maybe not.. I think it depends on your experience, your quest for adrenalin spikes, and your tolerance for damage.
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