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Unread 11-13-2012, 11:15 AM   #46
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Check out the Troy AR at Dicks Sporting Goods. They are limited editions with only 500 made. Troy Industries site has all the info. They also have S&W M&P-15 for same money $1099.00.

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Unread 11-15-2012, 06:08 AM   #47
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Thanks every body, good posts, good pics and good advice. Lovin me an AR. Ill report back in January with what I got.
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Unread 11-15-2012, 07:59 AM   #48
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That's good, there's a lot of crap out there and the more you know, the easier it is to shift through the crap.

As an FYI, 'tightness' doesn't matter one bit in the ARM4 family. Neither does 'fit and finish'. These aren't 1911s. My priciest and most accurate rifle does not have tight upper/lower receiver fits and the stock isn't that tight on the receiver extension. It shoots 0.5MOA at 100 yards with MK262 ammunition. Pretty damn good for a semi-auto.

I'd worry about getting a quality foundation, keeping in mind:
1. the barrel - barrel steel, twist rate, gas port dimension, chamber, etc. all need to be in spec as they have a direct relationship to the function, reliability, and longevity of your carbine. Brands I trust are Colt, Daniel Defense, Bravo Company, Lewis Machine Tool, Centurion, Noveske, Knights Armament, and recently Palmetto State Armory has been decent.
2. the bolt/carrier - while you can swap factory units out for better ones, these also have a direct relationship to the reliability of your carbine. Brands I trust, and have thousands of rounds through, are Bravo Company, Daniel Defense, and Lewis Machine Tool.

Rails, lights, optics, triggers, stocks, etc. can all be changed later and you'll probably go through multiple iterations until you are happy. But you can rest easy if you know that your foundation (barrel, bolt) is a good one.

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nice build, i love my night force 1-4.

if it hasnt been mentioned yet, i would look into a mid-length gas system. i have a BCM upper 14.5 (pinned) thats a mid-length and its scary how smooth it is. i cant believe how i shot a rock river carbine length for so long. poor rock river never gets shot anymore!

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Unread 11-15-2012, 09:37 PM   #49
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For $1500 you have plenty of options.
Something from Colt, S&W, LMT, or BCM should do you just fine.
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Unread 11-16-2012, 06:33 AM   #50
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nice build, i love my night force 1-4.

if it hasnt been mentioned yet, i would look into a mid-length gas system. i have a BCM upper 14.5 (pinned) thats a mid-length and its scary how smooth it is. i cant believe how i shot a rock river carbine length for so long. poor rock river never gets shot anymore!

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Nice stuff - yea NF glass is amazing.
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Unread 11-25-2012, 09:09 AM   #51
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A week or two ago my dad gave me a Colt AR 15. The model is SP1. It is from the pre-ban era. Here is a lousy cell phone picture of it.
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Unread 11-25-2012, 12:19 PM   #52
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A week or two ago my dad gave me a Colt AR 15. The model is SP1. It is from the pre-ban era. Here is a lousy cell phone picture of it.
Looks vintage. very cool.
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Unread 11-25-2012, 03:13 PM   #53
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Looks vintage. very cool.
I think it is from the 70's. The end of the stock has a compartment to store a cleaning kit. I think that was around 1973.

I am trying to find the age of it by serial number. If you guys want to help me out or point me in the right direction that would be cool.

Colt AR-15 Cal .223 Model SP1
Ser. SP104396

Incidentally, my dad has one with a three digit serial number of 796, so that one is significantly older. Both rifles are in absolutely perfect condition. And they shoot perfect.
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Unread 12-18-2012, 01:17 PM   #54
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Unread 12-18-2012, 01:23 PM   #55
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Unread 12-19-2012, 04:57 AM   #56
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My 2 cents...

Forums are great and the post on the bolt and the barrel was spot on. As a military guy I would say that the piston system is definitely something to look in to. I take care of my rifle but the amount of cleaning that goes in to keeping that gas port tube can be a big pain in the ___... I will also say that the SKS and M1 are very fun as well.

You might also look to see if any ranges will allow you to shoot a gun before purchasing... just a thought. Good luck.
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Unread 12-19-2012, 05:14 AM   #57
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so if I wanted to build my own what steps would I take? how does one match a lower with an upper or will any AR upper fit the lower? thanks for your reply
Go to the web siteAR15.com and you will find the answers to all your question. I have to warn you though Black Rifle Fever is very contagious once you start building them it's hard to stop.
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Unread 12-19-2012, 08:14 AM   #58
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Update: just ordered a Sig. 556 patrol swat. Looking forward to lighting it up.
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Unread 12-19-2012, 08:17 AM   #59
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Update: just ordered a Sig. 556 patrol swat. Looking forward to lighting it up.
That's a nice unit. Jealous
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Update: just ordered a Sig. 556 patrol swat. Looking forward to lighting it up.
You'll love it! Great rifle - here's my 556 Swat (sorry for crappy cell pics)
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