[Nonya]

you guyz can say anything you want to him but he has to live next to his nieghbors not you.what i find most amusing is most people dislike most people around them no matter what the situation.its our nature to criticize and act like little children and of course to a have some kind of point of view that means absolutely nothing.i find most people like each other best if they don't know each other at all.after the pleasantries most all of us really don't give a rats behind except for ourselfs anyway.if anyone tells you otherwise they are lying.only reason people have pets is so they have something that whorships them,if the pet doesn't it gets tossed out like the nieghbors did.

[schitzangiggles]

Did you miss the part where I had the same problem? With people like this they only understand one thing. Force of Will. With enough force, they will stay on their own side of the fence. They will stop letting a dog run around pooping in every one's yards. Stop the illegal harvesting of valuable timber from property that they do not own. etc.
Since you apparantly have a learning disablity here you go:

[mrblaine]

Originally Posted by Wolfman01

This little escapade actually started over a month ago. One day, during a bout of nasty weather, a border collie shows up on my property. When I check him out, I find a tag with a phone number. I call the number and leave a message on their voicemail that I have their dog.

Later on, I've just left for work, and my phone rings. It's the dog's owner. I tell them that I have the dog tied up at my place, and that they will need to stop by and pick him up. The woman actually got disgusted with me, and told me that I needed to "shoo him home", and he would go home on his own. I then proceeded to tell here that I could not do this, as I had already left for work. She then gets nasty, stating that she wouldn't be able to stop by untill after 8pm when she got home from work. I tell her no problem as the dog is tied in a place where she can easily pick the dog up on her own. I then tell her where to go. Before we can hang up though, she still found the need to tell me how much of an inconvenience this was to her. I give her the dismissive "I'm sorry that this is a problem," and hang up.

Fast forward about two weeks. Again, their dog is back on my property. Again, I tie him up, and proceed to call them back. This time she answers, shouts "Hello! Hello! Hello! a few times, before hanging up. Thinking that the connection was bad, I called right back. This time, all I got was her voicemail. I again leave a message that I have their dog. This time, the message goes unanswered, and I end up holding on to the dog for two days. I then contact animal control, and have them retrieve the dog.

Fast forward another few weeks. Again, their dog is back on my property. Given my last two encounters with these people, I simply have animal control pick up the dog without attempting to contact the owners.

So far, the dog has not shown back up again - yet.

Thursday morning, I get the wild burr to walk the back acreage on my property, so that I can see how well the grass is starting to grow back, so that I can gauge when I might be able to allow another neighbour to bring their horses back up to graze. When I get to the back of my property, I find that there has been a large amount of clear cutting along the property line, including the cutting down of several large trees that were well inside my boundary, and that some of the north/south facing fenceline has also been removed. Now, as someone had snagged the east/west fenceline, tearing it down in the process, with a tractor a few years ago, I wasn't too terribly uptight over this. However, I did feel compelled to make contact with the property owner bordering my land, to let them know that they had inadvertently cut a few of my trees down, while working along the property line.

I head over to their house Friday morning, and get to meet the husband of this dynamic duo. It is also at this time, that I find out that THEY were the owners of the aforementioned dog. I get exactly one statement out regarding the tree cutting along the line, when this guy starts getting defensive about the property line. I then offer to point out where the trees were cut, and we both head out to the area where our places meet. It is now that he puts two and two together regarding the dog. By now, I'm sure some are getting the picture. He is now building up steam over the dog issue, and starts repeatedly calling me an azz hole for having his dog picked up. I then remind him that there are state laws regarding keeping one's animals contained. He clams up for about 10 seconds, before launching into a tirade about "damn city people" coming out and screwing everything up. Then he asks how ling I've lived there, which is about 7 years now. Oops, the foot goes right back into his mouth - they've lived there less than a year.

By now, we get to the property line, complete with another barrage of being called an azz hole, and how it must come naturally. Mind you, I've never changed the volume of my voice, and have yet to deviate from referring to the guy as "sir." I point out where the line is, and the trees that were cut down, all of which were still lying on the ground by where they were cut. Some of these trees had trunks in excess of 8 inches across. By rights, I am in a position to make life rather expensive for him to replace the cut trees, and yes, I'm STILL taking the high road, and am not resulting to a tirade of profanity, or name calling. By now, he's going off about how I'm getting all worked up over a "little bit of brush clearing."

By this time, I think my refusal to get mad is starting to really tweak him off. He then launches into another tirade on how HE'S going to put up a new fence, and that it will be HIS fence, and if I touch it, he's gonna sue. My answer to that little fit was a simple "OK." So, we are now walking back, with another tirade of azz hole lobbing from this guy (this must be his favorite term I guess), with him by now telling me to leave. I of course do after telling him to have a nice day.

People like this simply make me wonder. I guess in their world, everyone should put up with their animals getting into other peoples stuff, and making a mess, (their dog shredded some empty dog food bags set aside for recycling into trash bags), and allow them to clear cut whatever they see fit on another person's property. As I've said, I wasn't upset over the trees getting cut down. I DID however, feel that they needed to know that they had encroached on another person's property. I know that I for one, would be quite grateful to be notified in a civil manner if I had done something wrong. Oh, and I would have had the manners as well, to talk to a neighbouring property owner before cutting on a property line. IMO, it's about respecting others.

You appear articulate with a clear presence of mind. Rare to find nowadays.

Consider this course of action.

Carefully craft a non inciteful letter to your neighbors and send it in some manner that indicates to you that they received it.

In the letter state in as neutral of a tone as possible that you desire to have non confrontational relationships with those whom live near you and as such, there needs to be a few things clarified to keep it that way.

Suggest that if he has any issues with your property line and his inappropriate behavior in damaging your trees, you will be more than glad to have it surveyed and if the trees in question were on your side, not only will he be required to pay for the survey, but he will have to replace the trees as well.

Invite him to construct a fence in any manner that suits him as long as it does not encroach upon or share your property line. If he does want to rebuild the fence on the line, then you would like input into it's construction and will split the cost of materials within reason.

Indicate that as neighbors you strive for peace and confrontations only escalate to the point where no one wins.

Give him an out in a firm manner and let him know that you are more than forgiving of past sins provided a mechanism is put in place that will prevent them in the future in the clear interest of a harmonious relationship. Let him know though, if he does decide he wants to dance, you've always got an opening on your dance card and are much better at it than he is.

Explain that the accepted alternate course of action concerning his wayward pet would have been to bring about it's demise in an abrupt manner and instead of anger and derision he should be expressing thanks for your care and concern for the animal's well being as was demonstrated by your previous methods of dealing with the issue.

Gently put the ball in his court and see which way he kicks it.

[edzakory]

What truly amazes me is that there are a number of people that live by double standards. They have no problem violating your rights but are ever so protective of their own.

I live by the Golden Rule and I treat other people the way I would like to be treated. However, when they violate my rights, I then look for equity.

I had the same problem with a neighbor on a small farm I owned in VA. The neighbor decided to stake the property line every 20' with metal posts. In the process, he cut some trees on my property because they interfered with his ability to stake and sight the property line. When I questioned him via letter about the issue, he responded by telling me to have my lawyer talk to his lawyer.

I took him to small claims court for the value of the trees he cut. He offered no excuse to the Judge. He could not claim that his actions were a mistake as he used the survey rods as his guide posts!

Hit him where it hurts, the pocketbook. Take him to court. Since my judgment, I never had another problem with that neighbor violating my property rights. As for the dog, continue to have animal control impound it. After a few fines, he may start to understand that others have rights too.

[TopThrillJoe]

Originally Posted by joe0482

its my turn to say it


burn there house down!!!!

ahhh i hate you