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Unread 12-09-2012, 11:37 PM   #1
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So how is that 4.7 engine?

I dont need to tow liked I used too so I am going to get rid of my problematic V10 F350.

Found a nice 06 Dodge 1500 standard cab short bed with a 6 speed manual and the 4.7 engine. It cant tow much but it would do my cherokee just fine. Or thats what I am assuming. Price is right and its not more tuck that I need. I dont want a small truck, I was looking into a ranger but those are just too small.

So does anyone know about these trucks? I know the engine is a Jeep engine. How is it? Should be able to tow 4-5k right? Car trailer plus gear and cut up XJ?

I dont need the power of the V10 anymore and its quite a bit newer with only 80k miles on it. Gonna keep it stock height and tire size. From what I read it can tow 6,850 in the ram version. Hows the mileage DD and towing? Not that it matters I think anything is an upgrade from my V10. 8mpg in tow 11mpg on the highway. 8mpg on the highway loaded.

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Unread 12-10-2012, 12:09 AM   #2
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Check out ramforum. I was talking to a guy with an 04 Ram the other day, and he likes his 4.7L. He tow a horse trailer with it and it pulls fairly well. He did have a 3815(I think) tuner, cat back hemi exhaust.... And a throttle body spacer(I know).

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Unread 12-10-2012, 12:27 AM   #3
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in my 00 durango ive got the 4.7 and it pulls and pulls. Towed a car on trailer down to Florida (1300miles one way then another 1500 back) and aside from the terrible wind mid continent i couldnt even tell i was towing anything.
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Unread 12-10-2012, 12:36 AM   #4
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All my junk is at least 16 years old now so that 06 1500 may handle the load like an old 3/4 ton.

But, I think there's a huge difference pulling 5 or 6k with a 3/4 or 1ton vs a half ton. Used to pull my cj on a 1700 lb trailer with a 91 Chevy 1500, or a 99 Chevy 1500. Yeah they did it, but it's no comparison to the 97 f250 7.3 psd I use now. Even ignoring the diesel vs gas, The 3/4 hauls and handles and stops the load Much better than the 1500 trucks did.
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Unread 12-10-2012, 01:12 AM   #5
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Check out ramforum. I was talking to a guy with an 04 Ram the other day, and he likes his 4.7L. He tow a horse trailer with it and it pulls fairly well. He did have a 3815(I think) tuner, cat back hemi exhaust.... And a throttle body spacer(I know).

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Good to know. I will probably only modify the exhaust. And honestly its probably just going to be a muffler. I never seem to keep a vehicle long enough to dump money into like I always do. Good to know though, thanks.

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in my 00 durango ive got the 4.7 and it pulls and pulls. Towed a car on trailer down to Florida (1300miles one way then another 1500 back) and aside from the terrible wind mid continent i couldnt even tell i was towing anything.
Great news!

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All my junk is at least 16 years old now so that 06 1500 may handle the load like an old 3/4 ton.

But, I think there's a huge difference pulling 5 or 6k with a 3/4 or 1ton vs a half ton. Used to pull my cj on a 1700 lb trailer with a 91 Chevy 1500, or a 99 Chevy 1500. Yeah they did it, but it's no comparison to the 97 f250 7.3 psd I use now. Even ignoring the diesel vs gas, The 3/4 hauls and handles and stops the load Much better than the 1500 trucks did.
Ive never had the pleasure of using a newer 1/2 ton but from what I hear is that tow as good as the older 3/4 tons. I dont know because this is a small v8 but thats OK I dont plan on towing anything bigger than it. Ill get a bigger truck later if I do. This is just a way more reasonable DD. Im really only excited about the 6 speed manual though.

My F350 is a beast and I love it to death but its proven to be more unreliable than worthwhile to keep.

In regards to how much better a larger truck with bigger brakes towes thats true. But I only went wheeling 4 times this year. My dad has a 91 chevy 1500 too and towing an older blazer I had with that was down right scary. My F350 ive grossed out at 20k so far and all I can think is "damn, what else can we fit on the trailer". It was epic I towed an old military 6x6 2 hours in a blizzard.

Im getting out of the big projects like that though, and im wheeling less and less everywhere. Big plans with my girlfriend are going to further impede any reason to own a 1 ton truck. If in the future I need one I can get one again. I just cant justify owning it anymore. It would be one thing if it was maintence free but its my main dd and its been broke down for over 3 weeks now with no fix in sight. It was broke down for a solid month earlier this summer too. Ive been stuck on my wr250r in the 30 degree weather. Thank god there is not snow yet!!
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Unread 12-10-2012, 05:28 PM   #6
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That sucks about the v10 being down. Whats wrong with it? Is it the spark plug threads the v8 tritons are plagued with?

That 4.7 will probably yank it around, you'll just have to wind it up!
A 6spd short bed full size does sound like a fun dd though!
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Unread 12-10-2012, 06:12 PM   #7
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The 4.7 is a great motor. We get them in with 200k+ miles all the time without needing any work. The only complaint I have about them is dodge doesn't put low enough gears in the axles. Get some 3.90s or 4.10s and it will have all the power you'll need.
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Unread 12-10-2012, 07:21 PM   #8
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That sucks about the v10 being down. Whats wrong with it? Is it the spark plug threads the v8 tritons are plagued with?

That 4.7 will probably yank it around, you'll just have to wind it up!
A 6spd short bed full size does sound like a fun dd though!
Nope I had one ejected plug and fixed it really easy. I bought my truck knowing about that problem and having it already happen in my ex girlfriends truck and fixing it.

The problem is that sometimes it will run, sometimes it wont. It will just shutoff like you turned off the key . And we cant figure it out if its a bad wire somewhere or a bad computer or whatever. I cant figure it out and neither can a local mechanic. The last time it happened it still wont run I havent had my truck for a few weeks now. Im not working much either so I dont have the money to just take it to the dealership and spend thousands for them to throw parts at it. I can throw parts at it too till it runs but I dont have the money for that.

Its cheaper to offload it and get something else, honestly.


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The 4.7 is a great motor. We get them in with 200k+ miles all the time without needing any work. The only complaint I have about them is dodge doesn't put low enough gears in the axles. Get some 3.90s or 4.10s and it will have all the power you'll need.
I think it has 3.90s so thats great news!
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Unread 12-10-2012, 07:37 PM   #9
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I never had any engine issues out of the 4.7L engine I've had in my two WJs over the years. I use to pull my YJ around on a trailer, a Bayliner every weekend and even the Jet Skies when I had them (not all at the same time LOL) with it (not all at the same time LOL) until I bought a RAM with a Cummins.

I think its a great engine. Never owned a half ton truck (my Tundra dose not count as a half ton) so I don't know if towing with a larger truck is better, but I'd have to aggress with it as they are designed to tow.
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Unread 12-10-2012, 09:21 PM   #10
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They're great engines, but if you ever have to take it apart for any reason you'd be better off replacing it. It has very close tolerances and nobody- not even Dodge- recommends taking it apart. Usually if you need to do head work you'll end up with lower end problems and vice-versa.
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Unread 12-10-2012, 09:34 PM   #11
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I never had any engine issues out of the 4.7L engine I've had in my two WJs over the years. I use to pull my YJ around on a trailer, a Bayliner every weekend and even the Jet Skies when I had them (not all at the same time LOL) with it (not all at the same time LOL) until I bought a RAM with a Cummins.

I think its a great engine. Never owned a half ton truck (my Tundra dose not count as a half ton) so I don't know if towing with a larger truck is better, but I'd have to aggress with it as they are designed to tow.
Great this is sounding pretty positive. ill probably end up doing it for sure then!

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They're great engines, but if you ever have to take it apart for any reason you'd be better off replacing it. It has very close tolerances and nobody- not even Dodge- recommends taking it apart. Usually if you need to do head work you'll end up with lower end problems and vice-versa.
Thats interesting. Sounds like it has a long life expectancy though so I would hope I didnt have tow orry about it.
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Unread 12-11-2012, 11:29 AM   #12
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They're great engines, but if you ever have to take it apart for any reason you'd be better off replacing it. It has very close tolerances and nobody- not even Dodge- recommends taking it apart. Usually if you need to do head work you'll end up with lower end problems and vice-versa.
Don't know where you got that info but it's all false.There is nothing special about the 4.7 and it is easily repaired.Like any other engine it's easily messed up from shotty repairs.
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Unread 12-11-2012, 01:09 PM   #13
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Unread 12-11-2012, 06:01 PM   #14
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Great this is sounding pretty positive. ill probably end up doing it for sure then!
I think it will work fine for what you need it to do. Your RAM will weigh more than my WJ did, so it will most likely do a better job towing than the WJs did. Good luck with it.


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Unread 12-11-2012, 06:35 PM   #15
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I have an 02 ram with the 4.7 auto and the 3.92 gears and 4wd. It will flat out run. Only about 30hp difference between the hemi and 4.7. Plus the hemi need 89 octane and has 16 spark plugs. I've had it for 6 years and never much fuss from it. I would be surprised if that truck has 3.92's being a stick especially if it's 2wd. I have towed cars on tow dolleys and it does it without much fuss. I wouldnt want to tow with it constantly, but it's fine for every now and then. A few of the big problems with these 3rd gen Rams are things like the LSD has retainer clips that like to fall out and can chew up the gears, people say they sludge up easily, but i change my oil every 10k using mobile 1 oil and never had an issue, the blend doors tend to break so test all the air positions, and lastly the fan for the A/C condenser tends to wear out. I love my truck and it has more room by far compared to other single cabs.

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