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Unread 12-30-2007, 01:02 PM   #1
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Patriot??? or cherokee

idk, it might just be me but all the cars that jeep has been coming out with recently (exc. wrangler) seem to be looking more and more like a cherokee. the new Patriot looks even more like the xj cherokee. Is Jeep trying to bring back the cherokee.

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Unread 12-30-2007, 02:17 PM   #2
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CLASSIC Jeep styling. The Libby replaced the Cherokee.
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Unread 12-30-2007, 02:49 PM   #3
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They shouldnt have killed the XJ in the first place.
4.0/AW4/solid axles, that was a nice vehicle. I loved having the 242 full time too. It was comfortable but not huge and hard to maneuver. Only thing could have been improved was the gas mileage.
I sometimes regret selling that jeep.
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Unread 12-30-2007, 04:27 PM   #4
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They never should've stopped making the XJ Cherokee
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Unread 12-30-2007, 04:55 PM   #5
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cherokee,
or wrangler, or GC, or CJ, or MJ or fullsize, but not the patriot

independant suspension, plastic, harder to work on, harder to lift, less capable off road AND $$$$

only thing good about it is gas mileage, onroad manner- and if you wanted that get a subaru
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Unread 12-30-2007, 05:26 PM   #6
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CLASSIC Jeep styling. The Libby replaced the Cherokee.
yeah i know, but it seems that all the new jeeps are looking more and more like a cherokee. i think the patriot is built on a xj chassis. please correct me if im wrong.
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Unread 12-30-2007, 05:29 PM   #7
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They shouldnt have killed the XJ in the first place.
4.0/AW4/solid axles, that was a nice vehicle. I loved having the 242 full time too. It was comfortable but not huge and hard to maneuver. Only thing could have been improved was the gas mileage.
I sometimes regret selling that jeep.
I agree, i wish i had the np242 im my mj, but i only have the np232. but 2 of my xjs have full time 242 and my sisters xj has the 232. I have no idea why they stopped making the xj. if theyre bringing it back i wont be sold on it until they bring back the 4.0.
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Unread 12-30-2007, 05:42 PM   #8
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yeah i know, but it seems that all the new jeeps are looking more and more like a cherokee. i think the patriot is built on a xj chassis. please correct me if im wrong.

well, actually the Patriot/Compass MK platform is a 'uni-body' constructed vehicle without a 'frame' like the XJ or any of the Wranglers. the MK is more similar to the Grand Cherokee and Liberty in construction. is that correct, Gramps?

Question: so if a WJ, KJ and MK Patriot can be "Trail Rated", why not the Compass?
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Unread 12-30-2007, 05:45 PM   #9
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well, actually the Patriot/Compass MK platform is a 'uni-body' constructed vehicle without a 'frame' like the XJ or any of the Wranglers. the MK is more similar to the Grand Cherokee and Liberty in construction. is that correct, Gramps?

Question: so if a WJ, KJ and MK Patriot can be "Trail Rated", why not the Compass?
The Compass is a more car-like vehicle. I doubt it could handle anything more than a gravel road. And the XJ was a unibody vehicle also.
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well, actually the Patriot/Compass MK platform is a 'uni-body' constructed vehicle without a 'frame' like the XJ or any of the Wranglers.


Question: so if a WJ, KJ and MK Patriot can be "Trail Rated", why not the Compass?
The XJ is unibody, the YJ/TJ are not. Main differences from the XJ and the MK are (to me): Solid axles (XJ), rubber band transmission (MK) and 4.0l Inline Six (boo ya! XJ)

As for why the Patriot is Trail Rated and not the Compass i think it has something to do with ground clearance?
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Unread 12-30-2007, 05:51 PM   #11
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The Compass is a more car-like vehicle. I doubt it could handle anything more than a gravel road. And the XJ was a unibody vehicle also.

good point on the XJ....yes, it was a unibody vehicle. as for the Compass, why did you not mention the Patriot, since the powertrain (unless equipted with FDII), suspension and the like are IDENTICAL? if you have to rely on looks to get you out of a tough spot (Patriots looks over Compass), then there would be alot of disappointed CJ, TJ and JK owners. some of their vehicles look like CRAP! oops, can i say CRAP on this forum? or would **** be better?
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good point on the XJ....yes, it was a unibody vehicle. as for the Compass, why did you not mention the Patriot, since the powertrain (unless equipted with FDII), suspension and the like are IDENTICAL? if you have to rely on looks to get you out of a tough spot (Patriots looks over Compass), then there would be alot of disappointed CJ, TJ and JK owners. some of their vehicles look like CRAP! oops, can i say CRAP on this forum? or would **** be better?
The Patriot and Compass are basically the same vehicle, but the Patriot has a little more ground clearance and a two-speed transfer case. A little bit better, but not much. I wouldn't take either off road.
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Unread 12-30-2007, 06:23 PM   #13
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The Patriot and Compass are basically the same vehicle, but the Patriot has a little more ground clearance and a two-speed transfer case. A little bit better, but not much. I wouldn't take either off road.

REALLY? "jeep.com" stats show that the Compass Sport 4X4 "D" Pkg has a ground clearance of 8.1" and the Patriot Sport 4X4 "D" Pkg has 8.0". where I went to school, 8.1 >8.0

as for the transfer case difference, like i said, only the Patriots with the Freedom Drive II option have the 'crawl ratio' feature. but like you said, i wouldn't take either off-road, but that's not why i bought it. i bought it because I LIKE IT!
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Unread 12-30-2007, 06:24 PM   #14
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REALLY? "jeep.com" stats show that the Compass Sport 4X4 "D" Pkg has a ground clearance of 8.1" and the Patriot Sport 4X4 "D" Pkg has 8.0". where I went to school, 8.1 >8.0
Wasn't aware of that. They always look so much lower than that.
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Unread 12-30-2007, 06:27 PM   #15
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Wasn't aware of that. They always look so much lower than that.

YEA, i was surprised too. lower roof line.
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