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Old 01-25-2007, 05:38 PM   #76
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Member CoriolisSTORM aquired a headache at 1730 hours after reading the thread posted by Member WenieD. Member WenieD is put on notice that talking in 3rd person makes heads hurt.

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I think a safer way to bake on the paint would be to use a microwave. I'll try that tonight and post pics after the Holiday FD is done.

Metal + Microwave = Not the best Idea
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Old 01-25-2007, 05:53 PM   #78
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You're right, I probably shouldn't put anything large and metal in the microwave.

No extra room with the cat in there.
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I think a safer way to bake on the paint would be to use a microwave. I'll try that tonight and post pics after the Holiday FD is done.

I hope you're kidding... Did you ever put foil in the microwave?
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I do, then I chew the tin foil afterwards.
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maybe you should ask him out........
And take him back with you!

Maybe teach him how to speak in the 1st person.



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And take him back with you!

Maybe teach him how to speak in the 1st person.



By the way, wenie, where do you wheel?
Poweline and pipeline rightof ways...gilmer tx...hot springs..etc.

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Old 01-26-2007, 02:18 AM   #86
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Great job genius

springs are manufactured with special spring-grade alloys and heat treated in certain ways to allow them to continually contract and expand for hundreds of thousand of miles - you just weakened/de-tuned the spring and spring-rates.
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Ha. WenieD, you've got to give us the test results in a week. I love the idea, but I don't want to see any cracking.



Anyone else know if that is true about the heat treated springs? Did he just eff it all to hell?
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Ha. WenieD, you've got to give us the test results in a week. I love the idea, but I don't want to see any cracking.



Anyone else know if that is true about the heat treated springs? Did he just eff it all to hell?
technical specifications of spring steel - autos mostly use 50 Carbon steel for springs.
http://www.techsavvy.com/industry/file/national/09dvn/psw05.html

effect of heat on steel (pdf). Read page 4-5 - they even have a graph of what temps we are talking about
http://www.pwri.go.jp/eng/ujnr/joint/35/paper/71sakumo.pdf


now the real question is, baking it at 400F - is that hot enough to change the properties of the spring to the point of failure / altered ride? lift manuafactures (fabteck, DR, rancho, ect) often powdercoat springs, but they account for that when engineering them.
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I thought he said he baked them at 200 degrees. If so, I can't see that compromising the structural integrity of the spring
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Great job genius

springs are manufactured with special spring-grade alloys and heat treated in certain ways to allow them to continually contract and expand for hundreds of thousand of miles - you just weakened/de-tuned the spring and spring-rates.
Member got_4_low fails to realize that member WenieD and Pistol Gibson are both Mechanical Engineers.
There is one "FATAL FLAW®" with the theroy proposed by member "FATAL FLAW" got_4_low. We baked the springs aroung 190-200 F for merely 45 minutes. At these temperatures the molecules in the steel would not mobilize therefore stress relief of the springs could not occur.
Furthurmore, member WenieD does not expect that the spring rate would be affected until temperature were high enough to create carburization and spheroidization.

Member "FATAL FLAW" got_4_low's input is appreciate.

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