[shredby4]

OPPOSE FEDERAL "CASH FOR CLUNKERS" PROGRAM

Washington lawmakers are drafting a large economic stimulus package to help create jobs and rebuild infrastructure. They want to include a nationwide scrappage program which would give U.S. tax dollars to consumers who turn-in older cars to have them crushed, as a misguided attempt to spur new car sales. The lawmakers need to scrap this idea.

The stimulus package is being drafted right now. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) wants to introduce the bill on January 6 and have it approved by Congress by January 20, so that President Obama can sign it into law after he is inaugurated.

Contact House Speaker Nancy Pelosi IMMEDIATELY To Oppose Cash for Clunkers!
Call: 202-225-0100
Click here to send an electronic message: http://speaker.house.gov/contact/

Talking Points
Feel free to use any of the statements below as a starting point for your message to Speaker Pelosi.

* I am [calling/writing] to urge lawmakers not to include a “Cash for Clunkers” provision in the economic stimulus bill. Owners who turn in vehicles for crushing would receive a "minimal" payment to purchase a new car. This is a misguided attempt to spur car sales and claim that the country’s air quality or fleet fuel mileage is being improved.

* I work for [company name] located in [city and state]. My company is part of the specialty automotive industry, an industry which enables consumers to enhance their vehicle’s appearance, performance, comfort, convenience and safety. “Cash for Clunkers” programs deny our small businesses the availability of older cars necessary to develop and market their products and services. The programs will hurt my company and our customers.

* “Cash for Clunkers” programs threaten enthusiasts nationwide with the loss of valuable parts and parts-cars for repair, restoration, and customization projects. The programs also risk destroying classic, historic and special-interest vehicles, our American heritage.

* Cars turned in for scrappage often barely run, or are rarely-driven second or third vehicles that have a minimal impact on overall fuel economy or emissions.

* “Cash for Clunkers” programs will reduce the availability of affordable transportation and repair parts used by low-income drivers. It will also compete with the Salvation Army, the Purple Heart and other charities that rely on vehicle donations to raise money.

* “Cash for Clunkers” ignores better policy options. If Congress wants to act, support for repair and upgrade is a better choice and a win-win for consumers, dealers, manufacturers and repair shops. Significant emissions and fuel economy improvements can be achieved in older vehicles through relatively simple and inexpensive means: repaired/replaced exhaust systems, tune-ups, etc.

* We hope we can count on you to reject “Cash for Clunkers.” Thank you for your consideration on this very important matter.

If you choose to send a message to Speaker Pelosi, please send a copy of your message to SEMA also:
E-mail: briand@sema.org
Fax: 202/783-6024

[gamble71]

I'll dance on Princess Pelosi's grave if given the chance.

[WhiteOut]

Are politician in the US really this stupid?

Do they really think that people will turn in cheap to run, reliable vehicles for a small amount of money to buy a new car in a ressesion?

[TheMightyGoat]

I first heard this idea from my environmental sustainability teacher a year or so ago. She is perhaps in her mid-30s and bears a mustache. She hailed it as an opportunity to remove high-mileage, dated vehicles from the road and replace them with whatever environmentally friendly vehicle incentive she was also peddling at the time.

[Marauder_Pilot]

Are you high? Some won't, but the vast majority will be like **** YEAH NEW CAR! And rack up a bit more debt...

[jeepdavetj]

God I hate our gov. Reminds me of when Cali if I remember was letting companys get the "carbon credits" for removing "gross polluter" from the road. Hot Rod went to an event and picked up a 67 Camaro with a 6 banger took it to a smog station unmolested and it passed smog and even beat a Mitsu that was there getting smogged. What they don't usually understand is if I drive an old car its because I enjoy it. ****ing Idiots in congress.

[amberdawn]

shredby4,

Personally,

I have to agree with George Carlin (within reasonable measures):
the world will be here; it has gone through innumerable crises like the ice age, meteors, etc.; we should be more worried about the advancement (or sustainment) of our own species.

That doesn't mean that we shouldn't try to conserve, but taking absolute or drastic measures is ridiculous.

My husband mentioned that in his adolescence, in Mexico, they also had a plan:

Depending on what number your license plate ended with, there would be a certain day of the week that you COULD NOT drive your car...
due to emissions...

This was for old AND new cars.

Naturally, people got agitated. So, they decided to buy two older, cheaper cars (instead of one reliable one) and interchange them on their "no-driving" days.

Scrapping old cars prevents recycling parts for other cars...especially in the case of cars (and their parts) which are no longer manufactured. If this law were in effect when I was in my first year of college, in a new town, working my butt off to go to school and pay the bills,

how in the world would I have fixed my salvaged 1986 Buick Skylark?

[Ridin' Around]

Help out, Crawl this thread after you read it.

[jeepdavetj]

The "Cash for Clunkers" program is a gross mistake. For someone that claims to know the sufferage of the working man you have completly missed the mark. This is a complete waste of my money and ever other tax payer in our country. I hope you will reconsider your actions.

Thank You.

David ******




This is what I sent her. I hope it gets thru that delusional mind of hers.

[PJL]

^ "Sufferage" refers to voting rights.

[Comanche_]

lol

[Comanche_]

why would i trade a classic car for a little money when it could be parted out for more?

[Rob99]

Originally Posted by jeepdavetj

The "Cash for Clunkers" program is a gross mistake. For someone that claims to know the sufferage of the working man you have completly missed the mark. This is a complete waste of my money and ever other tax payer in our country. I hope you will reconsider your actions.

Thank You.

David ******




This is what I sent her. I hope it gets thru that delusional mind of hers.

She's probably going to be wondering what you have against women's right to vote.

Originally Posted by PJL

^ "Sufferage" refers to voting rights.

Originally Posted by Comanche

lol

[Mike318_]

Originally Posted by shredby4

OPPOSE FEDERAL "CASH FOR CLUNKERS" PROGRAM

Washington lawmakers are drafting a large economic stimulus package to help create jobs and rebuild infrastructure. They want to include a nationwide scrappage program which would give U.S. tax dollars to consumers who turn-in older cars to have them crushed, as a misguided attempt to spur new car sales. The lawmakers need to scrap this idea.

The stimulus package is being drafted right now. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) wants to introduce the bill on January 6 and have it approved by Congress by January 20, so that President Obama can sign it into law after he is inaugurated.

Contact House Speaker Nancy Pelosi IMMEDIATELY To Oppose Cash for Clunkers!
Call: 202-225-0100
Click here to send an electronic message: http://speaker.house.gov/contact/

Talking Points
Feel free to use any of the statements below as a starting point for your message to Speaker Pelosi.

* I am [calling/writing] to urge lawmakers not to include a “Cash for Clunkers” provision in the economic stimulus bill. Owners who turn in vehicles for crushing would receive a "minimal" payment to purchase a new car. This is a misguided attempt to spur car sales and claim that the country’s air quality or fleet fuel mileage is being improved.

* I work for [company name] located in [city and state]. My company is part of the specialty automotive industry, an industry which enables consumers to enhance their vehicle’s appearance, performance, comfort, convenience and safety. “Cash for Clunkers” programs deny our small businesses the availability of older cars necessary to develop and market their products and services. The programs will hurt my company and our customers.

* “Cash for Clunkers” programs threaten enthusiasts nationwide with the loss of valuable parts and parts-cars for repair, restoration, and customization projects. The programs also risk destroying classic, historic and special-interest vehicles, our American heritage.

* Cars turned in for scrappage often barely run, or are rarely-driven second or third vehicles that have a minimal impact on overall fuel economy or emissions.

* “Cash for Clunkers” programs will reduce the availability of affordable transportation and repair parts used by low-income drivers. It will also compete with the Salvation Army, the Purple Heart and other charities that rely on vehicle donations to raise money.

* “Cash for Clunkers” ignores better policy options. If Congress wants to act, support for repair and upgrade is a better choice and a win-win for consumers, dealers, manufacturers and repair shops. Significant emissions and fuel economy improvements can be achieved in older vehicles through relatively simple and inexpensive means: repaired/replaced exhaust systems, tune-ups, etc.

* We hope we can count on you to reject “Cash for Clunkers.” Thank you for your consideration on this very important matter.

If you choose to send a message to Speaker Pelosi, please send a copy of your message to SEMA also:
E-mail: briand@sema.org
Fax: 202/783-6024

I got a clunker for them, it i'll be in the toilet tomorrow morning. They can contact me about picking it up before 6:30am.

[Prot]

And so it begins..........


When I read stuff like this and then I look at the obscene amount of taxes I pay, it sometimes makes me wonder why I even work so hard, sacrifice so much, and put more into my job than anyone I know only to have a large portion of it taken by the government to be spent on stupid stuff like this.