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Unread 01-07-2010, 03:07 PM   #61
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Say the Super Bowl ends up being the Colts/Saints. Two great QB's light it up for 35+ points and the game goes into OT. One team wins the coin toss, drives 35-40 yards, kicks the FG and it's game over. The other QB never even gets to set foot on the field. To me it just seems wrong for a game to end that way and I doubt very few people would enjoy a Super Bowl ending in such fashion.

You'll always hear how any time a defense holds a team to a FG in the red zone how it's a "win for the defense" but that doesn't really apply when they stop the opponent outside the 30 and lose to some glorified soccer player who's performing the equivalent of a free throw from the three point line (unless Romo is holding).

I don't care how they do it, but something needs to be done. Every other sport with an overtime system allows both teams an opportunity. There's a reason the team that wins the coin toss *always* elects to receive.
In a case like that, then the Team whose defense is on the filed first in OT could not stop the other QB and deserves to lose, they are the weaker team, or they could of stopped them one more time in Regular time.

Also, for that situation, we would end up at the end of OT with both teams having scored 14 pts each and just prolong the game. And when someone would eventually win, it would be by a FG anyway.

That is why you narrow the goalposts, so the offense has more work to do.

I dont think the NFL wants to get into these 7 OT games like NCAA does. That is for the birds.

Either Score or stop the other team from scoring, Be the better team and you will win.

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Unread 01-07-2010, 03:19 PM   #62
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That was my point. In a shootout where neither team can really put up much resistance to keep the other from scoring, it seems rather lame to have it settled by who gets into kicking range first. Maybe they could just prohibit FG attempts unless a team gets inside the 20, and they have to kick it from a hash.

You're clearly in the minority beacuse I don't know very many people who are fans of the current OT system in the NFL. Defenses are gassed after 4 quarters and very very very very few teams are going to be much of a problem, especially if they just got driven on to end regulation only to have to take the field again at the start of OT.

It's football, so there are no 'gimmies', but I'd still like to see both teams get a shot regardless. I don't really like the NCAA's system either, but it's better than nothing.
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Unread 01-07-2010, 03:29 PM   #63
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Well i think the fact that the game will end in a FG anyways has a lot to do with it. Whether it be at end of Regulation, or on the first possesion of OT. How many games themselves are won/lost by FG in the last seconds of games anyways. Then the other offense has only a few seconds left, which is basically them not getting another chance to try and score, Just that it is in Regular time.

I know I am in the minority, but I dont think prolonging games is the answer. I like your suggestion about not allowing FG. That should be closer that the 20, or not at all....
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Unread 01-07-2010, 03:39 PM   #64
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I think the problem is that kickers are too good these days. The system is actually fine, but now K is a player position, not like the days when Jim Thorpe or George Blanda were playing multiple positions and K.

In any case, I can't wait for the playoffs. All of the bowl games have sucked but I'd wouldn't mind if Alabama won tonight.
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Unread 01-07-2010, 04:08 PM   #65
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Lets not forget that the Colts were the ones that got this whole 5 yard chuck rule, dont jam the WR thing going. "The Patriots corners are hitting too hard, they are being too rough, Waaa Waaa." Bill Polian and the Colts are the biggest whiney babies on the planet. Ive got tons of respect for Manning as a player, but hes the biggest baby there is. As for predictions, Pats make it past the Ravens but I think thats as far as they get. I hate to say it but I think the Jets win, Packers in a blow out..like a 35-3 game, and Philly beats the Boys. Chargers/Saints in the big game with Drew getting spanked by his old team.
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Unread 01-07-2010, 05:04 PM   #66
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What about the Brady rule. Touch a QB and you get a flag? 15 yards and automatic first down.
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Unread 01-07-2010, 05:13 PM   #67
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That was my point. In a shootout where neither team can really put up much resistance to keep the other from scoring, it seems rather lame to have it settled by who gets into kicking range first. Maybe they could just prohibit FG attempts unless a team gets inside the 20, and they have to kick it from a hash.
Bah, let it end it a tie so everybody is a winner
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Unread 01-07-2010, 05:26 PM   #68
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Ill just say i HATE the OT rules for NFL.
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Unread 01-07-2010, 05:29 PM   #69
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Unread 01-07-2010, 05:41 PM   #70
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Bah, let it end it a tie so everybody is a winner
Meh. Ties are like kissing AlTheKiller's sister.

Wait, what?
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Unread 01-07-2010, 05:50 PM   #71
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Meh. Ties are like kissing AlTheKiller's sister.

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What about the Brady rule. Touch a QB and you get a flag? 15 yards and automatic first down.
Thats not the Brady Rule. The wussification of the NFL was going on long before Brady. Pretty soon there is going to be a penalty for tackling too hard. Or a 15 yarder for "Hurt Feelings"
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Unread 01-07-2010, 07:29 PM   #73
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Meaningless games are hard to judge.....
what game was meaningless?
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Unread 01-07-2010, 07:30 PM   #74
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Not really. Look what the Steelers did to Carson Palmer in the playoffs a few years ago. There wasn't even a flag for that. Brady's single-handedly got the pansy QB rule and the tuck rule in full force now.
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Unread 01-07-2010, 07:51 PM   #75
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what game was meaningless?
just hope your not trying to say that philly/dallas game was meaningless for philly. They had alot at stake, so hope your not downplaying Dallas DESTROYING Philthy for a shut out
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