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Unread 01-22-2010, 06:26 PM   #1
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New Gaming PC / Suggestions

What gaming PC's would you guys recommend? I have had an alienware for the last 4 years that was the biggest piece of junk ever!!!!! constant problems...it was a good thing I purchased the extended warranty.... Customer Support was horrible as well.
I have been looking at these

Gaming Desktops

But I am open to all opinions/suggestions

Thanks for your help

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Unread 01-22-2010, 06:38 PM   #2
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Is building your own completely out of the question?

A gaming PC built entirely to your specifications to suit your needs, and that can be upgraded with limited grief. That's the way I always go anyway. I absolutely refuse to buy an over-the-counter PC based simply on the fact that they come loaded with junk software, that and upgrading them without using over-priced brand name specific parts becomes a pain in the butt.
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Unread 01-22-2010, 07:14 PM   #3
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Is building your own completely out of the question?

A gaming PC built entirely to your specifications to suit your needs, and that can be upgraded with limited grief. That's the way I always go anyway. I absolutely refuse to buy an over-the-counter PC based simply on the fact that they come loaded with junk software, that and upgrading them without using over-priced brand name specific parts becomes a pain in the butt.
Well i thought about doing that with the alienware case that i have now. My main concern is lack of knowledge if something ends up not working out quite right... I know just enough to be dangerous
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Unread 01-22-2010, 07:33 PM   #4
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What are the specs you're looking for? I can try and do a quick build-up for you with all the matching hardware, and then let you decide what to keep and get rid of.

Wont be until later tonight though.
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Unread 01-22-2010, 07:42 PM   #5
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I'd second building it, it's not like the old days, it's kind of hard to get stuck configuring it anymore. I'm sure there are plenty of good write-ups on the web on how to do it, and honestly it's not that hard. oh and get an anti-static wrist strap, a lot of people build without one but it's really not worth the risk, they are heap anyways.

That is really the ideal way because any manufacturer will often skimp on the mainboard quality and other parts that aren't common things people check on.
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Unread 01-22-2010, 08:13 PM   #6
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Below is the build I did on the above mentioned site for reference, the price ended up being $2,200.
I could basically gut my alienware and use the existing hard drives, cooling and power supply. What do you guys think of new egg for purchasing equipment if I decide to build my own. Oh and Thanks Again for all of your help.

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master HAF 932

Processor: Intel Core i7 860 2.80GHz (Quad Core)

Motherboard: EVGA P55 SLI (Intel P55 Chipset)

System Memory: 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)

Power Supply: 750W Digital Storm Certified (Dual SLI Compatible) (Silent Edition Recommended)

Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (500GB Western Digital (16MB Cache) (7200 RPM) (SATA)

Optical Drive 1: DVD�R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 22x / CD-Writer 48x)

Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 1GB (Includes PhysX Technology)

Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio

Extreme Cooling: Standard Factory Heat-sink and Fan

Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With Zalman Performance Fans (Up to 6 Fans)

Boost Processor: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Requires Air Cooling Upgrade)

Boost Video Card: FREE: Yes, Overclock the video card(s) as much as possible with complete stability

Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)

Restore Kit: Digital Storm Specialized Recovery System (DVD Image Based)

Display: Acer 23 inch (Widescreen) (Black) (High-Performance Gaming Display)

Warranty: 4 Year Platinum Care Extended Parts & Labor Warranty (Highly Recommended)
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Unread 01-22-2010, 08:34 PM   #7
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case- pick a nice one, antec 902 is nice
psu- corsair tx750
cpu- core I7 750
ram- G skill DDR3 1600, 2x2gb
mobo- Asus p7p55d
graphics- ATI 5870

That's the basics, I could help you pick some more of the components.
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Unread 01-22-2010, 09:51 PM   #8
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Newegg has a combo deal with this case right now:
Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases

The hardware:
Intel i7 - Bloomfield 920 - 2.66ghz Quad Core Processor
ASUS P6T LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3G1600LV6GK
Seagate Barracuda LP ST31500541AS 1.5TB 5900 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive
COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
(2)SAPPHIRE 100286L Radeon HD 4860 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
COOLER MASTER Intel Core i7 compatible V8 RR-UV8-XBU1-GP 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
LG DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model GH24NS50
COOLER MASTER Silent Pro 600 RS-600-AMBA-D3 600W ATX12V Power Supply

Add-On's: ACER 23" Ergonomic Monitor with Ring Stand - $199.99
4GB G.SKILL DDR3 1600 - 104.99
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional - System Builders - 179.99
Creative Sound Blaster Infinity 7.1 Channel Sound Card -159.99
Logitech 505 Watts 5.1 Speaker System

Arctic Silver Thermal Compound
Total cost: $2,217.43



So you would have:
2.7 ghz Quad Core Intel Processor
10GB of DDR3 1600 MHZ RAM
1.5 TB of Hard Drive Space
2 GB of Crossfire Video Memory
23" Widescreen HD Monitor
5.1 505 Watt Speaker System
Microsoft Windows 7 Pro
You really can't beat that deal for the price.
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Unread 01-22-2010, 10:35 PM   #9
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That is a good deal!!! Below is what my alienware is now:

1 | AREA-51

1 | ALIENWARE FULL-TOWER SILVER CASE 1.5

1 | INTEL D925XCV 925X MOTHERBOARD

1 | INTEL P4 3.4GHZ 1MB 800FSB LGA775

2 | SAMSUNG 2GB DDR2 PC4200 REV 2

1 | NEC ND-3500 16X DUAL LAYER DVD±R/W RECORDER

1 | LITE-ON 52/32/52 CD-RW BLACK

1 | CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER AUDIGY 2 ZS 7.1

1 | NVIDIA GEFORCE 9800

1 | 750 WATT POWER SUPPLY


What do you think if I replace the Motherboard with this:
Newegg.com - Intel BOXDP55SB LGA 1156 Intel P55 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

And the processor with this:
Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550S Yorkfield 2.83GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Quad-Core Desktop Processor - Processors - Desktops

add memory and update the graphics card with this:
Newegg.com - MSI N285GTX SuperPipe OC GeForce GTX 285 1GB 512-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
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Unread 01-22-2010, 10:36 PM   #10
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Unread 01-22-2010, 10:38 PM   #11
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The motherboard you selected is only a single slot PCI Express x16. In other words you won't be able to run SLI or Crossfire.

If you want just a motherboard, memory, and graphics update, let me take a look around and see if I can't find something for you under the $750 range.

What is your ideal budget?
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Unread 01-22-2010, 10:44 PM   #12
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Build your own x 1000.

There are enough of us on here (and other forums) that have done it enough that we could help get you through it pretty easily
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Unread 01-22-2010, 11:12 PM   #13
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If I am going to do it myself (and with everyone else on here) I would like to stay under $800 so I can have a little left over for a new monitor. I would like to go ahead and go all out on the motherboard and processor so I will be able to add memory and upgrade the video card when needed...maybe get another 3-4 years out of the new set up if thats even possible....lol.
Thanks guys for all the help.....i do appreciate it
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Unread 01-22-2010, 11:29 PM   #14
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I went into my build thinking kind of the same way. Also I picked up parts here and there over the course of a few months to spread out the cost. I started with the less volatile stuff like case, keyboard/mouse, optical drives, etc and left the brains for the end. I also went with a single vid card for now, but a Crossfire board so I could add later. A little bit of future proofing
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Unread 01-23-2010, 12:47 AM   #15
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If you can change your oil you can build a computer...unless you're the heavy-handed type that breaks stuff by looking at it.

$800 is more than enough to build a solid system. You can even save a bit by leaving out the soundcard; most motherboards have decent onboard chips with coax and optical output and DirectX probably won't be supporting EAX much longer anyway. The video card is going to be your single most expensive component, so try to figure out the rest of your system first before you bottleneck it with a weak CPU/chipset/RAM combo.
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