Needed: More Americans with guns - Page 6

drummerwookie · 04-17-2007, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BLS33

You see it feeds the pro-gun crowd too. You say one person with a gun would have saved dozens of people, you know what anti-gun people are saying? If he couldn't get a gun no one would be dead. You can obviously argue that he would have gotten his hands on a gun illegally which I agree with. But he did get these weapons legally. It's a 2 way street don't act like the anti-gun people are the only one who this feeds.

couldnt agree more. theres always a positive and negative to everything, no matter what it is. and theres always going to be 2 sides worth arguing. i did here he got them legally, so i wasnt really using him as an example with that comment, just stating it.

but again, great points. i just pointed out my opinion on it

**ScotZ** · 04-17-2007, 07:45 PM

Five pages and none of this has anyhting to do with the 2nd ammendment. We have the right to keep and bear arms. Our courts have established that. The 2nd ammendment is not on trial here nor should it be. Give it a break people

**Jeepdawgs** · 04-17-2007, 07:48 PM

The best offense in a deadly situation is not the type of weapon you have, but the lump three feet above your ***. Knowing how to difuse a could be deadly situation without the use of deadly force is something that should be trained to all CCW carriers.

I agree that the goverment and law enforcement cannot protect us........on an individual level. They can, on a universal level, protect legal law-abiding gun carrying citizens if it was a priority. Unfortunalty it is not a priority.

Gun control should be on the federal level. Each state having its own laws is getting confusing.

**CoriolisSTORM** · 04-17-2007, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeepdawgs

The best offense in a deadly situation is not the type of weapon you have, but the lump three feet above your ***. Knowing how to difuse a could be deadly situation without the use of deadly force is something that should be trained to all CCW carriers.

I agree that the goverment and law enforcement cannot protect us........on an individual level. They can, on a universal level, protect legal law-abiding gun carrying citizens if it was a priority. Unfortunalty it is not a priority.

Gun control should be on the federal level. Each state having its own laws is getting confusing.

I tend to disagree, as then more of the commie states would have a say in it and the ******* politicians would probably listen to them, therefore affecting us non-commie states.

**Jeepdawgs** · 04-17-2007, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ScotZ

Five pages and none of this has anyhting to do with the 2nd ammendment. We have the right to keep and bear arms. Our courts have established that. The 2nd ammendment is not on trial here nor should it be. Give it a break people

Agreed. I think we can all agree on that. We have been debating more about the CCW permit then the second amendment. If that is taken away then a coup is not far behind.

jzmtl · 04-17-2007, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandon

An armed society is a polite society.

Polite because people are well educated, or because they afraid, that they'll get shot for looking at the next guy wrong?

**Jeepdawgs** · 04-17-2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CoriolisSTORM

I tend to disagree, as then more of the commie states would have a say in it and the ******* politicians would probably listen to them, therefore affecting us non-commie states.

I understand that part of the argument. But....Right now somebody can legally obtain a pistol in my area, then move to Chicago (within the city limits), and be arrested for having a pistol. Pistols are illegal to have inside of Chicago city limits. The gangs have them, but not the legal binding citizens. My point is, is that we need to have universal rules. Chicago somehow, someway has gotten around the second amendment. They argue that because shotguns and rifles are ok you can still bear arms.

2005Unlimited · 04-17-2007, 07:58 PM

sounds just right

TJgreg · 04-17-2007, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ScotZ

Five pages and none of this has anyhting to do with the 2nd ammendment. .... The 2nd ammendment is not on trial here nor should it be.

you say it yourself. Possessing firearms is not the issue, but having enough responsible and properly trained citizens is.

Simply putting more firearms out there will do no good, however with proper training and regulations it will. Many people do not carry because they are not comfortable, it would be ludicrous to arm someone who is ignorant in weapons practice.

leakytiki · 04-17-2007, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by War Eagle

Knock yourself out, but most colleges prohibit weapons on campus. If you're caught with it they really won't care that you have a CCW. You'll most likely be expelled and arrested.

I don't see, by your girly sentiment, how you've made it Alabama. I feel sorry for you.

**War Eagle** · 04-17-2007, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by leakytiki

I don't see, by your girly sentiment, how you've made it Alabama. I feel sorry for you.

Stating facts about gun possession is now considered girly? Whatever you say, tough guy.

leakytiki · 04-17-2007, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 2005Unlimited

This is right on.

Everyone that is a law abiding citizen carry a gun. Not good. There are to many stupid people. Hell the yankees lose and 30 people die.
Hell the United states will look like Iraq, just without AK's

The more guns on the street means more dead bodies

Yeah, and you know who will be dead? The criminals most of the time. That's where they should all be! Dead in the streets. Quit whining.

leakytiki · 04-17-2007, 08:17 PM

I just want to say to the OP, that this is one of the best pieces that I've ever read! You said everything that I've not been able to say, as of yet. Perfect! All of you who disagree with him, are........ just sad excuses for Americans. God Bless the families, friends and, VT students.

**BLS33** · 04-17-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by leakytiki

I just want to say to the OP, that this is one of the best pieces that I've ever read! You said everything that I've not been able to say, as of yet. Perfect! All of you who disagree with him, are........ just sad excuses for Americans. God Bless the families, friends and, VT students.

So because I feel it is wrong to use a tragedy to promote any type of agenda I'm unamerican?

TJgreg · 04-17-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by leakytiki

Perfect! All of you who disagree with him, are........ just sad excuses for Americans.

and what exactly are you doing to support the country?

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leakytiki Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: virginia Posts: 8 Profile Gallery Classifieds My Jeeps	I just want to say to the OP, that this is one of the best pieces that I've ever read! You said everything that I've not been able to say, as of yet. Perfect! All of you who disagree with him, are........ just sad excuses for Americans. God Bless the families, friends and, VT students.