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Unread 01-11-2007, 08:29 AM   #1
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Need info about Alvarez Guitar

From a friend of a friend... I bought a used Alvarez Model 5045 acoustic guitar. Well... I wasnt back at work 10 minutes and one of the guys was playing it and dropped it and broke the head off the neck...

Even though its broken, I am trying to find some background information about the guitar itself... Does anyone know where I can find info such as wood, age, etc...

Pics to come shortly...

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Unread 01-11-2007, 08:36 AM   #2
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Here come the pics... It is a Model 5045 S/N 56253





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http://www.alvarezgtr.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvarez_Guitars
http://www.guitar-resource-center.co...z_guitars.html
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Unread 01-11-2007, 09:22 AM   #4
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i tried all those and cant find this model number anywhere.... ?
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I have an Alvarez myself...not sure on the model number but I could check at home. all I could find with a quick search on the 5045 was that it seems like a 70's model...not sure if they still make it or not. For the neck to snap like that it would have to be an older one...the wood has obviously gotten brittle...that thing needs some humidity bad!!

Looking at other model numbers, It looks like the S/N probably denotes materials (woods) used. The S is for the top (Spruce) and the N would be the sides/back. I can' think of a common guitar wood that starts with N though. You sure it's not an M (mahogany?) That's super common for sides/back.
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A liscensed luthier could fix that, it looks the break is somewhat clean and a very profficient luthier should be ble to fix that to where this is no sign of a break minus a very small seem in the wood.

Im from Cincinnati and I do this sort of repair quite often on acoustics and electrics, usually costs from anywhere to 70-140 dollars, varrying on wood and time involved in setting the angle of the neck and finishing the seams on the wood. let me know if you have any other questions. The top is defeinetly a spruce top, the sides are a laminate veneer. the back i am not positive of, but likely a rose wood.
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the label on teh inside has a Model number of "5045" and a serial number of "56253"... there is also a number at the top of the body (on the inside) of "910263" and there is a red stamp on the inside label that says "Almost Perfect"... you can see it in the third pic...

as for the wood... i am taking it for someone to look at repairing at lunch today and will ask them about it...

the list price as used at the guitar shop was $379... and i gave $120 for it... now if I can just get it fixed ill be a happy camper...
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oh by the way. look for the word yairi. If his name is on that guitar, it was a handbuilt alvarez by a japenese master luthier. Worth a lot of money to alot of people. well at least when he neck was one piece
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oh by the way. look for the word yairi. If his name is on that guitar, it was a handbuilt alvarez by a japenese master luthier. Worth a lot of money to alot of people. well at least when he neck was one piece
HAHA... very funny!


I know about Yiari guitars and i havent found anything on it like that... the closest thing ive found is "Alvarez Hand Made" on the inside rib...

EDIT: It says Alvarez Artist on the label... so i guess its an Artist Series
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GuitarCenter wanted $300 minimum to repair the neck... so being the resourcfull guy that i am... talked to another guitar repair guy who told me what to buy and how to do it, so for $15 at Lowe's I now have my new Alvarez curing on a table in my office...
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Gorilla glue is good, but I don't know about its sound quality.
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Do you actually use the Ab Lounge or is it your guitar stand?
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Do you actually use the Ab Lounge or is it your guitar stand?
personally think its MUCH more usefull as a guitar stand... especially considering what that guitar has been through in the last 24-hrs...

and i was told by the repair guys to get Tight Bond, so i used the tightbond Dark so that the edges wouldnt have a white glue look



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As for the wood, I would guess the top is cedar. It looks dark for spruce. If it is spruce, it is a very dark specimen. The sides appear to be mahogany. While Alvarez makes good quality guitars, don't get too bent out of shape if the fix doesn't work. If it was a guitar worth alot of money, you wouldn't have gotten it for the $175 or whatever you paid for it. List price is always way high from what I have found. If you have to get a new one, and are wanting a full solid wood guitar, you can get them for a little over $500. I know the alvarez masterworks are really nice, but I passed on those for my Garrison HG-30-CE. They are a bunch of guitar for the money, or at least they were 3 or 4 years ago. Check em out...

http://garrisonguitars.com/

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I sold an Alverez "all wood" model for $350 about two years ago. Great tone and action. Almost everything on those models was made of wood. Right down to the dots on the fingerboard. You have a great deal. Looks like the head had a clean crack and should repair well. Enjoy. Alverezes are great low cost guitars
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