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Unread 02-18-2003, 09:50 AM   #1
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Need computer advice

I have a super old computer, I think it has an AMD K6 which is either 400 or 433 MHZ. This computer has been through a lot and has been rebuilt several times with new parts. However, the computer is getting way to slow and as of late has a serious issue of rebooting randomly which causes a lot of stress.

I am not a major hardware guru so I was looking for some help on what I should do, I assume I need a new processor, motherboard, memory, and probably a new video card. What are some good choices for this and places to buy it at or should I get a new system, if so where?

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Unread 02-18-2003, 09:55 AM   #2
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if you really need to do all that to a computer, just buy an inexpensive new one for like $500 (thats how much u probably have to spend in order for a new motherboard etc..)
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Unread 02-18-2003, 10:52 AM   #3
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I disagree. What Billy Joel didn't mention was that for $500 you could buy the pieces for a fairly top notch machine or you could buy an inexpensive prebuilt job that, well, won't be. Bottom line, I've found it always cheaper to build your own if you want performance for less. It's more fun too. No one else works on my Jeep, no one else builds my computers. Now, if all you do is look at the internet and write email and such, you probably don't need a speedy machine and the cheapo ones would do you ok.

Check out places online. One store is streetprices.com that will tell you which vendor has the best price on different parts. Its up to you to decide if the vendor is someone you want to buy from.

Generally speaking, you will need a new motherboard, processor, memory, and I would get a new video card as well. Get a motherboard with a sound card built in and it will probably be OK unless you're an audiophile. You might be able to use your old case and powersupply, maybe not. You'll have to check what you're getting vs. what you have. Usually you can go buy a case with a decent power supply for cheap from local mom and pop style stores.
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Unread 02-18-2003, 11:13 AM   #4
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My standard build of a computer lately has been fairly in-expensive, but built with the best and fastest components I can find.

Asus motherboard without sound, network, or video
P4 2.0gHz chip
Soundblaster live audigy sound card
512mb PC-2100 ram
300 watt power supply
ATI Radeon 64mb ram Video card
3Com 3c905 10/100 network card

From that basis, then I will add in CD-burner, or DVD reader/burner, mutli-drive systems, SCSI, scanners, speakers and such to personalize it to what my client wishes.

This system works quite well .. and doesn't cost a second mortgage. Others will say "why did you choose that, when this is better" .. but overall, I haven't had any complaints.
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Unread 02-18-2003, 12:23 PM   #5
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What kind of case do you have (at or atx?) What type of components do you currently have in your old system? If you have pc133 sdram, and you want to go as cheap as you can (if you have an atx case/power supply) you can buy a new motherboard/Processor/cooling fan for around 125.00 for a 1300 mhz.

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Unread 02-18-2003, 01:06 PM   #6
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i just recently rebuilt mine, i went from a k6-2 450 with 128 meg of pc100 and a voodoo3 to an amd XP2000 with 256 meg of pc266 (?) and a 128meg Radeon9000 all for about 320 bucks, since i used my old case, a few cards, and my old hard drives (which will be replaced with ultra ATA, or whatever theyre using now, when i can come up with cash that doesnt go to my jeep)

heres an awesome site, youll be hard pressed to find better prices:

http://www.tcwo.com/

and shipping is a flat rate of like 5 bucks up to somthin like 120 pounds, which is groovy kewl
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Unread 02-18-2003, 01:31 PM   #7
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HAH! vance uses a pentium... what a NOOB! AMD owns pentium no matter how much they speed up their clock rate, performance is what matters

Build it yourself keith... new egg
pricewatch

cheap prices can be found there.
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Unread 02-18-2003, 01:48 PM   #8
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I agree with pricewatch and newegg, but not AMD. But everybody has a preference.
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opinions dont outweigh the data.

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030210/barton-14.html

Notice that the 2.5 GHZ AMD is extremely close behind if not ahead of the 3.06 GHZ pentium.

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20030210/barton-15.html

then see the AMD beat the pentium in 2 out of 3 benchmarks. 2.5 vs 3.3.... 2.5 wins :P

not to mention the price difference.
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For the price you can't beat AMD.
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Unread 02-18-2003, 04:12 PM   #11
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I only use Intel motherboards and CPUs in my machines. They may cost a little more but it's worth it. Other than Windows98 I NEVER have a problem with my machines. My boss has an AMD in the office and it crashes daily. I used to build computers for a living before I got laid off and had more trouble with cheap MBs and AMD CPUs than I did with Intel. Check out some of the local computer shops and see what kind of deal you can get on the parts and do it yourself.
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Unread 02-18-2003, 04:25 PM   #12
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I've built several computers and have been burned with a poor CPU (NexGen ). However, when I decided to do away with my PII, I went with AMD Athlon XP and haven't had any problems. I used a P4 here are work and prefer my AMD in gaming (somewhat of an apples to oranges comparison since the video cards aren't the same). I think that hardware/stablity-wise AMD and Intel are very similar; I wouldn't rag on either system based purely on CPU brand. Any computer can crash constantly if the user(s) don't maintain the system and/or install garbage programs or components.

However, one big caution if you build your own - don't skimp on the memory or important components (mb, video card, fans, etc). Cheap chips will give you nothing but problems and an overheated computer will throw you all sorts of errors and crashes that can be really hard to pinpoint.

Building your own computer can be satisfying both financially and emotionally IF you have patience and do your homework. The 'net has many great reviews (Tom's Hardware) and great help in compatibility and problem-solving.
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Unread 02-18-2003, 09:43 PM   #13
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my .02

You can buy all the computer parts off the net for fairly cheap or if there is a mom and pop computer store they can generally give you a good deal... just do your price shopping first.

My advice if you are planning on just having it as a standard PC i'd go with a 40GB HDD(i tend to lean toward the seagate brand, more expensive but dont break down as fast as western digitals), you can go smaller if you dont store alot of things like photos, mp3 and the such,
atleast 256MB RAM, 512 would be better, that way you dont have to upgrade faster later, and RAM prices are cheap right now,
a GeForce4 video card has excellent output for standard and game viewing,
I like Gigabyte motherboards they tend to work well and long and come with additional features like sounds, network cable slot and usb ports with additional USB2.0 cards,
and well the AMD and Intel processor debate, Intel is expensive and great with performance aspects, the AMD is a little slower but both companies have very reliable and good status processors, I'd chose an AMD Athlon XP 1800, not too expensive and great performance.
On top of everything dont skimp on the fans!
I like Win2000, very stable and has drivers (that work)available for almost everything unlike XP.

If you have any questions about anything feel free to write me an email.
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