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Unread 08-04-2005, 12:03 PM   #1
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$ of MTR's

Just picked up a new Rubicon UL 10 days ago and thinking about selling the stock 245/75/16 Goodyear MTR tires to go with something more suited for my personal useage.

I can't be the first person to come up with this idea, so help me out - how much are they going for (fair)?

Under 1,000 miles and in perfect condition.

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Unread 08-04-2005, 01:26 PM   #2
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Cost of shipping! Put them on Ebay and start them out at around .99cents and you will most likely get about $400-$500 out of them. OEM tires suck in comparison to COTS tires.
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Unread 08-04-2005, 04:00 PM   #3
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for reference, there are a couple of sets on ebay going for around $900 right now that are ending soon. that is with rims and tires.
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Unread 08-04-2005, 05:38 PM   #4
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Wow, that's alot lower price than I would have imagioned...

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Unread 08-04-2005, 10:01 PM   #5
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Well, you don't buy off of Ebay to pay retail...
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Unread 08-04-2005, 11:10 PM   #6
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Hey Patrick - you should buy those from him!
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Cost of shipping! Put them on Ebay and start them out at around .99cents and you will most likely get about $400-$500 out of them. OEM tires suck in comparison to COTS tires.

OEM or not, they're MT/R's and get a good price no matter where you sell them.
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Cost of shipping! Put them on Ebay and start them out at around .99cents and you will most likely get about $400-$500 out of them. OEM tires suck in comparison to COTS tires.
I could potentially see this being true if he was referring to GS-A tires (even though they're not that bad for a DD tire), but he's referring to MTR's, which are an excellent tire.
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The MT/R's that come on your Rubi stock are different than the tires that you go and buy off the shelf from Good Year. Slightly different compound and internal design.
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The MT/R's that come on your Rubi stock are different than the tires that you go and buy off the shelf from Good Year. Slightly different compound and internal design.
I'm very interested in seeing this documented. Don't take this post the wrong way as I am only looking for information, but I do know that the Rubicon MTR is the only MTR around that does not offer white raised letters. Therefore, it could be a different compound, maybe made at a different factory. Where did you get this information?
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The MT/R's that come on your Rubi stock are different than the tires that you go and buy off the shelf from Good Year. Slightly different compound and internal design.
I had heard this once before about a year ago. But it doesn't make much sense... If a Rubi owner tore up a tire badly, and went to replace one, wouldn't you think w/ all of the Rubicons now sold that GY would be marketing the same MTR for replacements and upgrades?

What's the rumor say about the Rubi MTR? Better or worse than the ones off the rack?
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I have a buddy who has a set off of a Rubi, I have COTS tires, our rigs are identical in every respect other than the tires. My rig will go places his won't, my tires hook up in places his won't. We have even swapped rigs on the trail and he can take my jeep places that his won't go, and when I am driving his rig, nomatter what I do, I can't follow MY tracks that I made earlier. A few years ago I was freinds with a Gentleman who worked for GY, and he said that OEM tires are made different than COTS (Commercial Off The Shelf) tires. The Vehicle MFGR buys a million or so of these tires and if they can save @ $5-$20 dollars a tire, that adds up. The tire MFGR builds the OEM tires tuned to the specific vehicles needs. If it doesn't need as many plys in the tread or sidewall, as hard/soft a compound, they use the most cost effective means to make the tire and still deliver the performance charactoristics and pass DOT regs. Ever notice how the tires you had on your car or jeep never seem to last as long as the same tire you bought from Tire Rack or NTB or Sears? This is why. Everyone that I have heard who has had problems with MT/R's, have been running OEM tires.
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Unread 08-27-2005, 03:30 PM   #13
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I have a buddy who has a set off of a Rubi, I have COTS tires, our rigs are identical in every respect other than the tires. My rig will go places his won't, my tires hook up in places his won't. We have even swapped rigs on the trail and he can take my jeep places that his won't go, and when I am driving his rig, nomatter what I do, I can't follow MY tracks that I made earlier. A few years ago I was freinds with a Gentleman who worked for GY, and he said that OEM tires are made different than COTS (Commercial Off The Shelf) tires. The Vehicle MFGR buys a million or so of these tires and if they can save @ $5-$20 dollars a tire, that adds up. The tire MFGR builds the OEM tires tuned to the specific vehicles needs. If it doesn't need as many plys in the tread or sidewall, as hard/soft a compound, they use the most cost effective means to make the tire and still deliver the performance charactoristics and pass DOT regs. Ever notice how the tires you had on your car or jeep never seem to last as long as the same tire you bought from Tire Rack or NTB or Sears? This is why. Everyone that I have heard who has had problems with MT/R's, have been running OEM tires.
So you actually believe that the OEM MTR's are somehow inferior to the off the shelf MTR's? If that was true, I'd bet we would have heard of a major lawsuit by now...
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Unread 08-27-2005, 06:26 PM   #14
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I've got 54K miles on my OEM MTR's with only one rotation, never used my spare and would love to buy a set of takeoffs from someone local.
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So you actually believe that the OEM MTR's are somehow inferior to the off the shelf MTR's? If that was true, I'd bet we would have heard of a major lawsuit by now...
actually this makes sence. not that there inferior but just not built to goodyear specs. if the stock tire lasts for 60k miles then that good enough for the manufacturer. as long as it passes DOT specs and there isnt anything abnormal with the wear or the ride then its worth it to the car manufacturer to get tires that are 5 dollars cheaper and maybe only have to replace a handfull of tires due to abnormal wear. they do the same thing with most other components. if a manufacturer warrentys parts for 70k miles and they can either put in a radiator that lasts 75k miles that cost 100$ or a 100k mile radiator for 105$ then they will opt for the 100$ one and replace the few that fail under warrenty for far less then equiping all the cars with 105$ radiators. Car manufacturers factor in failures when they price out components. if its cheaper to replace a -part on every 100 cars then it is to just upgrade the part then thats what they will do.
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